10-04-2000 22:07									#1
	BC conquest.......finally ! Tired of ads?

Well i know it's not a record,but 25bc is also bc
If Germans were not so well hidden,i could made it about 300 bc. They were blocked by massive hill chain and my vet knights were slowed down
I've made few mistakes as well.
Last time i checked,record was 175bc.
Is that still stays?
If so...i believe i could beat it very soon.

	10-04-2000 23:46									#2
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What type map and what game parameters?

	11-04-2000 03:38									#3
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I don't care what your settings were... GREAT JOB! Congratulations!!!!!!!

	11-04-2000 04:10									#4
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gee smart fart don't make us (meaning ME) look too bad here...

But really, great job! What type of approach did you take in the first few turns to get to the AI's so quickly?

	11-04-2000 05:21									#5
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It was standard random generated small map,deity,raging hordes,7 civs,'don't restart eliminated civ'.
And i had no luck or help,which means i exterminated all 6 civs myself.
Tech path was standard...Hbr-Cer-Alph-CoL-Mon-WC-Feud-Wri-Chivalry-KILL 'EM ALL.
I've build no improvements at all. Only STWA.
As soon as Academy was finished i already had alot of almost finished settlers which i immediatelly switched into knights.
I lost my 6th city to barbs,and made 2 big mistakes (#1 lost a city to AI. i left it undefeded,but i forgot about enemy phalanx next to it. #2 lost 3 vet knights to germans,cuz i didn't make offered case fire )
I did incremental rush-buying.

	11-04-2000 05:47									#6
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Thats impressive.Its hard to get to them all that fast.

What did you face?Mostly phalanx?Any walls?

did you have 1 continent or did you have to build boats at some point?

	11-04-2000 08:39									#7
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Only 2 walled cities. 1st costed me 2 diplos to get them down.
2nd was German capital.
I had 3 knights in the reach and year was 25bc so i took my chances.
Lucky 4 me,city has only 2 warriors in it.
It was one big continent w/o much water.

I think i have an idea how to improve that result.
Record will fall soon.

	11-04-2000 15:13									#8
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Great Game - well done

How many cities did you have before WAR day?



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	11-04-2000 22:36									#9
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Great Job!

I usually perfectionize untill modern weapons...I may have to give this all out war challenge a shot. I'm not sure if I'll go for diety though....hmmmm

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	11-04-2000 23:05									#10
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I tryed it but at 50 BC I still had 2 civs with 7 cities left.You really gotta get 1 landmass.It adds many turns when your marching army hits the coast.
The biggest problem was the double and triple unhappies that started to show up as my city total climbed.Even at 70% luxuries I had to hire a ton-o-Elvi.

How did you deal with this problem?

	12-04-2000 01:31									#11
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Damn, good job! On Deity even. That is awesome. I can see that I could do pretty well with this challenge on King, maybe, but Deity sounds impossible. I've tried speed conquest before, but never seem to finish any of those games. I'll have to give it another try.

	12-04-2000 13:43									#12
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I had 12 cities before i finished STWA and my luxury rate was 0% during a whole game.
3 units per city (warriors,pikemen) solved unhappines problems in the beginning.
Later i used entertainers.
I also had about 10 settlers which i used to make roads to connect my cities.
I faced mostly phalanx and some warriors. None of them are match for vet knights.
I lost 1 settler,2 horsemen,1 charriot and 8 knights(3 by my own fault).
I didn't get much tribute (about 500 gold total) because i broke every treaty i made

Problem is that STWA comes too late for my taste.
Next time i'll try to build few barracks and some vet Elephants so i could go conquering much earlier.
In that game i didn't micromanage so i had alot of disorders and waste of food/trade/shields.
I truly believe i could make it before 175bc which is offical record so far.

	12-04-2000 15:28									#13
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I wonder if that will work on MGE??
Warm up the dummies!

	12-04-2000 17:29									#14
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What exactly?

If you mean BC conquest it will.
Since i only have multiplayer version of Civ2.

	13-04-2000 05:39									#16
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I made it again. 75bc w/o free techs on start.
Some tips if someone want to try...

-6 cities is enough
-build your cities on high shields squares
-don't break treaties before you get STWA because of tribute
-don't waste your time restarting a game to get free techs on beginning (clean start=good land)
-when you pick chivalry as your next tech,minimize science rate (by the time you have enough money to rush STWA,you'll get chivalry with 30% science)
-don't ask for tribute if AI offers you tech exchange you don't need
-you must have at least 4 horsemen for hut chase and search for AI

Next time am gonna try it w/o Sun-Tzu.