19-05-2001 17:00									#1
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It appears than Civ3 will have only 14 civs each of one will have unique units and advantages.

My questions are two:
1. What do you THINK it would happened with Spanish civilization in Civ3?
2. How do you LIKE Spanish civilization be represented in Civ3?

My own opinion is:
1. Spanish will appear as a very aggressive civilization and it´s unique units and advantages will be surely worst than those for others civilizations as Americans or English.
2. I hope Spanish civilization not to be in the game at all. Really, I don´t like uniques civs but if finally there will be unique civs I prefer Spanish civ not to be in the game, than a very likely impartial idea of the Spanish civilization.

	19-05-2001 17:18									#2
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don´t count with an Spanish civ...

	19-05-2001 17:33									#3
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In one of the preview screenshots, there's a city called Salamanca. So I gues the Spanish may be there. And I'd like them to be in Civ3, for I always play as them in Civ2.

My gues is that their unique unit could be the Conquistador. Hmmm, Pizarro...

	19-05-2001 20:19									#4
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I also always play as the Spanish in Civ2. But... what would you do, Fiera, if your playing-style does not match with spanish unique units and advantages?

	20-05-2001 03:56									#6
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Some reports I saw said that the number of Civs will be 16. I saw a screen shot (can't remember where, though) that showed Madrid on a list of top cities, so I believe that they will not be overlooked. How can you have a history game without Spain?!!? Seems silly to me. No word on Spanish wonders, though. I guess Kindal and Jay Bee will have to get busy with some scenarios if the worst comes to pass.

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	20-05-2001 04:30									#7
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I agree with you, Flip, that Spanish civilization will be discriminated in comparisson with Anglo-Saxons ones, but we have to be usual of this.

I beg to differ.

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	20-05-2001 14:07									#9
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Well, even in the worst of the cases, It will remain the scenarios.

I hope It would be good Civ3 scenarios about Spanish story at least as good (it would be difficult best ) as those some people of The Spanish Civilization II Site has made for Civ2. Will we be able to continue playing on theses super-scenarios?
Although as Fiera say in his column, it’s a pity that no more of 7 civs will de included in the scenarios.

	20-05-2001 14:34									#10
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St. Leo,

Short but provocative reply. Mind to elaborate a bit please? I always thought that the Latin world was very underrepresented in Civ2, not to tell Civ1 That was the very first reason why the Spanish Scenario series were created.


Flip, Fiera et al,

I believe the unique units y tal y tal will appear as a game option, which I think is very convenient (to never use it, he, he)

As to the scenarios... well, currently I am not particularly very keen on doing that. Scenario making takes a lot of time and our second offspring is almost knocking at the entrance door


(PS. Flip, are you the guy at the University of Granada who wrote me a few weeks ago? I am glad to have you as one of our regulars now. Hopefully some more will join )

	20-05-2001 14:36									#11
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Ah, Fiera, I read you column. I found it good and entertaining. The very high level of response originated proves it. Some of the reactions to it were very moronic, btw
[This message has been edited by Jay Bee (edited May 20, 2001).]

	20-05-2001 15:43									#12
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Gentleman, good news! I just came from civfanatics, and they have a list of the civs in the game and....Spain is among them!

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	08-04-2002 00:32									#17
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que tiempos aquellos... por donde andara Flip... se le echa de menos

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quote: Originally posted by Jay Bee que tiempos aquellos... por donde andara Flip... se le echa de menos

Por Madrid estaba currando, no? cuando he visto esto aqui arriba pensaba que habia vuelto

	09-04-2002 02:19									#19
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dejamos el bonaparte pbem por q se fue, era mi aliado en la guerra contra kIndal,

yo tambien pensaba q habia vuelto

	09-04-2002 02:28									#20
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quote: Originally posted by Shaka Naldur dejamos el bonaparte pbem por q se fue, era mi aliado en la guerra contra kIndal,

Si que es verdad, me acuerdo que me supo fatal y todo tener que atacarlo, pero es que era un coñazo estar en paz con to quisqui y no tenia emocion la cosa

	09-04-2002 02:34									#21
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pero si me tenias a mi hasta en la sopa,
anda mira el save y ya veras como estabas perdido

si eso te doy mi contraseña

	09-04-2002 12:25									#22
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No si me acuerdo perfectamente, yo estaba mas aburrido que na y por eso le declare la guerra a los rusos (todavia no me habias atacado tu), a los varios turnos resulto que estaba en guerra contigo y si te acuerdas nio me habia dao cuenta que me habias conquistado una o dos ciudades cerca de Francia asi que me di cuenta de que era un coñazo de partida y como tambien estaba de examenes y no tenia tiempo poa mucho cachondeo, pos decidi pasarsela a ElAwr (creo) asi que lo que hiciera el,ya no es culpa mia