21-04-2001 07:30									#1
	MP Biz/Space Games -- Your Old Favorites Support Apolyton, buy Call to Power 2

This is my second foray into Tradewars 2002. The first one wasn't very involved, but this one is quite cool--to get in at the start.

Of course, this got me thinking about other multiplayer business games set in space. For instance, M.U.L.E. is a true classic that I remember fondly and still play from time to time on abandonware.

Others have mentioned VGA Planets, which I could never get to work right, but was one of the first graphical client/server games that are similar to this genre. If anybody is interested, I would be willing to see what the state of the art is on VGA Planets.

Of course, Pirates! has a feeling like Tradewars 2002, if you have a successful plan, although it isn't multiplayer, and is not set in space. I play that on abandonware too (although my projector doesn't seem to like changing resolutions to 800x600 of the C64 emulator).

Walk down nostalgia lane and give me your faves!
[This message has been edited by DanS (edited April 20, 2001).]

	23-04-2001 09:20									#2
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I'm glad that folks are enjoying TW2002. I can remember the first time I really started playing it, I was hopelessly addicted. I'd log on to dozens of area BBS's and play in several games at once. I remember one version of the game had these warp generators you could buy where you could change the warps into or out of a sector, my friend and I build a monster planet and essentially killed all the warps in or out of the sector =)

As far as other space trading games, obviously Elite is the original, and one of the games I used to love the most, and then there was PSI-5 Trading Company, and a couple of others. Pirates goes without saying =)

Dan
Firaxis Games, Inc.

quote: Originally posted by DanS on 04-20-2001 10:30 PM This is my second foray into Tradewars 2002. The first one wasn't very involved, but this one is quite cool--to get in at the start. Of course, this got me thinking about other multiplayer business games set in space. For instance, M.U.L.E. is a true classic that I remember fondly and still play from time to time on abandonware. Others have mentioned VGA Planets, which I could never get to work right, but was one of the first graphical client/server games that are similar to this genre. If anybody is interested, I would be willing to see what the state of the art is on VGA Planets. Of course, Pirates! has a feeling like Tradewars 2002, if you have a successful plan, although it isn't multiplayer, and is not set in space. I play that on abandonware too (although my projector doesn't seem to like changing resolutions to 800x600 of the C64 emulator). Walk down nostalgia lane and give me your faves! [This message has been edited by DanS (edited April 20, 2001).]

	23-04-2001 06:18									#4
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Wow, Elite brings back some memories. Was there a version before the C64 version?

Never played PSI-5 Trading Company...

Does anybody remember a board game called "Cartel" or something? I think it was from the 70s.

Cap: unfortunately, I have not seen a M.U.L.E. over IP remake, and I looked at length at one time. We couldn't use anything like VNC (a remote control app--shows the whole screen remotely), because the emulators use DirectX and wouldn't pass along the graphics overlay with the screen...
[This message has been edited by DanS (edited April 22, 2001).]

	23-04-2001 14:54									#5
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Well, I did the download of M.U.L.E. once, but it had a CRC error, or something. Is it really worthy? What is the game about, anyway?

	23-04-2001 19:09									#6
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Zealot: on my personal web site, I wrote the following:

"M.U.L.E. is one of the best multiplayer games of all time. Up to four people colonize a new world in space. The players compete in a simple market simulation in three commodities (food, energy, smithore) and one
"cash crop" (crystite). M.U.L.E. shows that complexity is massively overrated and that good game companies focus on gameplay. I would love to hear from anybody who has figured out a way to play M.U.L.E. over the internet. A good game of M.U.L.E. lasts about an hour."

It is worth your time, IMO.

	24-04-2001 14:35									#7
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Another very good space trading game is Omnitrend's Universe. It's very cool. Not only you need to make a living trading but you need to solve an intriguing mystery as well.

M.U.L.E. is simply awesome. Four human players can play on an Atari 800, but only 2 on the C64. Not only the players compete against each other, they must also cooperate. If they don't, the colony fails and everyone loses.
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	24-04-2001 14:44									#8
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I really loved M.U.L.E at C64. Me and my friend played it countless hours. I still miss it after all these years..

	25-04-2001 09:31									#9
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"but only 2 on the C64"

Not so. Two on joysticks, two on keyboard. Four total. 4 player MP on the C64 really was awesome.

I would like to play a game that deals with things like scarcity and other market realities with the same kind of intelligence and simplicity that made M.U.L.E. so fun and the replay value so high.
[This message has been edited by DanS (edited April 24, 2001).]

	25-04-2001 07:30									#10
	Suffering from ads?

You can use the keyboard to play but most people won't. Sucks compared to using joysticks.

	27-04-2001 00:40									#12
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I played VGA Planets for a couple of years. It was taking up a lot of my time but I didn't quit until guy who ran the server that I was playing on quit doing it.