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burbel is offline burbel
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As someone with *way* too much time on their hands , could the number of turns per day on this server be upped? I remember playing this game on various BBS's around town, and the reason that I was on so many different ones was the low number of maximum turns?

Anyone agree? Disagree?

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I agree. 250 is too low IMHO.

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Well, just to comment, I have played on 100 turns a day (just silly), 250 and 300 (to small, IMHO), 500 (not bad, but could be better) and 1,000 turns per day. I think that 1,000 turns per day is too extreme, but I would think that something near 750 would be nice, and would give us more time to plan TradeWars rather than discuss it on these forums! 8P

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I agree that the number of turns should be upped, but just a 'lil bit. 500 is more than enough.

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Another point for increasing the turns-per-day: it's very hard to explore the universe because you always need to return to fed space for safety. The reaching out - coming back takes a tremendous lot away from that puny 250 turns..

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I disagree. If people want more turns, there should be a game B, with different settings. Giving too many turns makes TOO MUCH exploration (no place to hide) or unbalanced gameplay.

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It goes both ways. More turns means other players have more time to find you, but it also means you have more time to build up your defenses.

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You think resources are scarce now try adding more turns.

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Resources aren't scarce, we just don't have time to go explore and do the trading at the same time. I was looking at some of the online webpages and people play up to 1000 turns a day in a universe with 5000 sectors.

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I've upped the daily number of turns to 400, this should allow more exploration. To keep some of the more "vigorous" players from running away with the game, however, I'm also working on adding a mysterious new alien race to the game that will be coming after you... muhahahahaha!

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Hey, thanks Dan. Thought you had given up on us there for a second. By the way, this is a nice favor you have done for us...much appreciated.

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thanks Dan!!

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Originally posted by Dan Magaha FIRAXIS on 04-27-2001 12:04 AM
To keep some of the more "vigorous" players from running away with the game, however, I'm also working on adding a mysterious new alien race to the game that will be coming after you... muhahahahaha!


Why do I feel targeted?

Let's see. I'm evil. I have the feds after me. The ferrengi. The good alien traders. The evil alien traders. All the good players (which means pretty much everybody). Maybe about half the evil players, which I'm sure wouldn't mind getting whatever bounty is going to be posted on my head. And probably everyone's grandmothers too. And now you're throwing another alien race? Gee, thanks!

At the very least, this is going to be interresting!

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5000 sectors is pretty standard, at least that is what all my other games have been (using GOLD). This one seems cramped.. nowhere to hide!

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Originally posted by Hutak on 04-27-2001 02:12 AM
Why do I feel targeted?

Let's see. I'm evil. I have the feds after me. The ferrengi. The good alien traders. The evil alien traders. All the good players (which means pretty much everybody). Maybe about half the evil players, which I'm sure wouldn't mind getting whatever bounty is going to be posted on my head. And probably everyone's grandmothers too. And now you're throwing another alien race? Gee, thanks!

At the very least, this is going to be interresting!

-Hutak



Well, there *IS* always a running game of King of the Hill going on, that's part of the challenge of being the "big dog"... =)

But in all seriousness I wanted to introduce some aliens that would actually fight amongst themselves as much as the human players. Since I restarted them, the Cylons haven't even spawned one alien yet, so don't worry too much. It was funny, though, to watch them kick Ferrengi ass =)

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Hmm.... maybe the port regen rate could be bumped up a little. I noticed the picking are getting slim today (I usually log on after school, so all the goodies are usually gone by the time I log on).... It might be the 400 turns as opposed to the old 250 turns.

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Actually, the port regen rate was upped to around 12% IIRC.

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Actually, the port regen rate was upped to around 12% IIRC.


Actually, I've since bumped it up to 30% and it's still hard to find ports that aren't tapped out.

The few reasons I can figure for why this has happened are:

1) A lot more people are playing than I expected, and the universe is just way too small. I expected about 10 people to play at most. Next time we go for a big (3000 sectors or more) universe I think =)

2) 400 Turns a day instead of 250 is definitely eating into port levels, but I think the port regen at 30% will help this.

3) Aliens were set to move around and trade while the server was dormant. I have disabled this option so aliens will only move around while someone is on the server.


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Actually I found 2 totally untapped ports today! I think people just haven't started scouting far from home yet.

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I have gotten the same results as Yin26. It's just a matter of finding new ports. The real problem is that players just don't bother to go off the beaten track. Once you start exploring the outer reaches you'll stumble on 100% ports.

No problem with trading there!

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