01-05-2001 03:08									#1
	Possible clan alliances/War against SElitez Support Apolyton or Terrorists Win

Ive sent messages to several other people that where apparently unprovokedly attacked by Selitez and asked them if they would like to ally with me and go against SElitez i wanted to get your inputs on this before i took any further action.

	01-05-2001 03:23									#2
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Excuse me DNI, but I'm mildly confused.

Just this morning our military leader General Ribannah posted this comment on the Retaliation Thread:

"Lordofrealms, as of this moment your country has been removed from SElitez's farm list. Hopefully this ends all hostilities."

Now I see that you are actively recuiting out side of our clan to start-up again / continue this "slap fest" with SELlitez - after they've made peace with our clan. Excuse me, but are you high?!

I say, if other folks want to become a member of our Clan then fine - but I do not like our Clan being used as "shield" so that other players can piss-off other clans then run and hide behind the Apolyton name!

Anybody, please correct me if I'm taking this development the wrong way.

Lordofrealms/DNI, please do not do NOTHING until until you get your marching orders from either General Ribannah or President Omnigod.






[This message has been edited by Wittlich (edited April 30, 2001).]

	01-05-2001 03:44									#3
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First i said that i would be the one that would be doing the actions not any other clan member 2nd i dont see that this is over as i have had no compensation for their 8 attacks and 4 missle disarmerments against me and third you used double negative so technically you told me to do everything.

	01-05-2001 04:18									#4
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Sorry for the double negative. I was excited, that's all. Please, do nothing until hearing from Rib and/or Omni on this.

Yes, I understood that you alone would be performing these attacks...But REMEMBER, you are no longer just by yourself. You are now apart of the Apolyton Clan and the actions you take will be concidered by the rest of the Earth 2025 community as the actions taken by the Clan. Even it no other clan members assist you in your endevour, it WILL be viewed that the Clan gave you the green light.

Dni, I do understand your feelings concerning not being adequately reimbursed for the damage you took. I, for one, am willing to send you a military package to help you recover from the damage you sustained. But I don't want this support package to be used against the Apolyton reputation. That being, attacking a clan right after ending hostilities. Has ELitez attacked a member of the clan since ending the hostilities? No.

Yes, ELitez continues to attack other, non-clan affiliated players. If those players want to join Apolyton, then fine. BUT any attacks they sustained PRIOR to joining Apolyton will be basically ignored and these new members CAN NOT continue their vendettas after joining without the support of the Clan. In another words, if after they join us they experience an unprovoked attack from ELitez then fine - that's a whole new ball game. By "unprovoked" I mean not a retribution attack for something they did earlier (prior to joining Apolyton).

I DO feel for you Dni, but I hope you realize that Apolyton can not be the police force for this reset. We don't have the power nor the influence (yet)

	01-05-2001 04:24									#5
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But other clans do and i have requested the assistance of serveral other extremely high ranking clans and have put a price on the 2 people that attacked me heads and i wasnt wanting to bring them in i was wanting to combine the power of the, as far as ive contacted that have already been attacked, 3 clans and use them to wage war with SElitez and i believe that we would win. Just for those that are wondering the price was 100M cash.

	01-05-2001 04:45									#6
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If i get retribution ill leave it alone unless someone else from our clan gets attacked unprovokedly again.

	01-05-2001 04:47									#7
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While I can see why you are upset Dni... Witt is correct, we cannot have members going off and starting a pissing contest. If you would like compensation for you losses, I'll send you some tanks, jets, food... Peace is what Apolyton needs for it's first reset to survive. If this isn't acceptable then we need to discuss this further, Rib is the general and VP so her opinion on the matter weighs heavily... since she put herself out there to get peace, I think my offer is the best and possibly only option available at the present time... if you choose to wage a war with SElitez, I will ICQ them and state you are going outside Apolyton policy and thus are at the whim of the Earth population.

	01-05-2001 04:50									#8
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If i get retribution in the form of or equal to 300-350k turrets im happy

	01-05-2001 11:15									#9
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lordofrealsm,

There is not going to be a clan effort to retaliate against SElitez.
We have made peace, and will honor that.

Nor will there be or has there been any demand for repairs. The reason is that it is impossible for us to know what exactly started all this, because you only began filing country reports recently. In addition, you have used improper language to SElitez members in various messages.

The maximum you can do within the clan rules is the following.
After the passage of 72 hours since peace was made, you can SS or PS each SElitez country once, provided that there are at least 48 hours between your attacks. Do not send messages like "this is payback for your !@^&*&* on my country" and note that they have the right to retaliate for each and every attack you make.

We cannot allow you to go on a personal vendetta and hurt the clan's honorable reputation.

If you are not happy with the situation and still intend to "punish" SElitez, the best thing to do is to leave the clan. As an independant country you can do whatever you want.

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