23-05-2001 08:27									#61
	Bah! Grow up people! Full PM-box? Change here!

I couldn't care less about this issue.

But its nice to see Markos having fun

And they called me a troll

	23-05-2001 09:04									#62
	Got spare money?

I earned my first 1000 the CIV 2 way. In the game forums. I think Ming will back me up on this. There were few visits for me to the OT... for some time at first.

I'm a little wasted right now so stay with me (lord knows I having problems staying with it).

The OT should not count. Post count really means nothing. Well, now a 1000 means you can use a custom avatar. So... take mine to 1000 if you want. but yeah, I guess I would a thousand at least to... well you know.

before someone like mao reached 10,000 in a year. i'm not picking on mao but when one thinks of spam - i mean come on!? mao is the definition of spam. someone help me out here.

so make OT post count free! i'm for it!!!

	23-05-2001 09:09									#63
	*hick* Help yourself to an AD-FREE life

Pass the bottle MWhC!

	23-05-2001 09:46									#64
	Suffering from ads?

Radical thought about post count (and I finally looked it up, since the user database sorts by that if you want it to - I'm #9 )

How about eliminating it and titles, but making custom avatars available to everyone after a minimum time on the forum (so that DL's don't try to cram a porn image in a 64 by 64 .gif )?

I don't care about post count, I don't care if mine's reset to zero.

99% of my posts are in the OT, so it "affects" me, but it really doesn't, because it's so inconsequential.

bcr3 - if all that mattered was post count, then some happy spammer who did for most of his posts would give you a feeling of recognition if he replied to your posts?

It's about quality, not quantity, and that's something people who get to know each other on the forum can recognize, but there's no way to "measure" it like post count. What you contribute counts, not how many posts you divide it into.

	23-05-2001 10:04									#65
	Re: Re: What I said somewhere else... Support Apolyton, buy Civilization: The Boardgame

quote: Originally posted by MarkG this site is first defined by it's owners, then it's users.... does that sound megalomaniac to you? if yes, it's a civ site, we cant help it

Yes, but if you don't care about the users, you wouldn't be trying to make this into a community would you? Isn't that what all the titles are about?

quote: Originally posted by MarkG according to other people, ot posters now have an advantage cause they have generally more posts and on topic posters wont be able to get the same titles as easy as the off topic posters did

Oddly enough, on topic posters aren't barred from the Off Topic Forum That's how I got there

	23-05-2001 10:42									#66
	Increase the size of your Attachments

I guess my days are numbered here.Is this how a minority feels?
Well,IT SUCKS!!!!!!since I'm a non-civer I don't exist .

I didn't want to be a king anyhow.

I know,I know,the reason I stayed was to become a Warlord as was the fears expressed during the Apolyton/Newsmax wars.I just wanted to get under Stefu and Theban's skin.Stodium even e-mailed me to ask me to leave which even made me want to stick it out more.But funny things happen in battle,I got addicted to the insight,intelligence,and the humor at Poly.The world view was different and the posters here had me looking at things from different slants.I can say being here for the last year(11 months)has improved my grammer and my attitude(right-wingnut spammer).
For that I thank you all.

Apolyton OT was a place I had to surf to everyday just to catch up on other views then the typical forums.I'll miss it.

Wildbill

	23-05-2001 10:56									#67
	Spammers: Start your engines! Support Apolyton, buy Galactic Civilizations: Deluxe Edition

That member league table thing is sure to become a source of competition.

For the record, I regularly post on topic - as Ming will testify.

	23-05-2001 18:27									#68
	Enter the AD-FREE zone

My first thread, "post count, who cares" which was on this forum, still expresses my opinion. For non-civ posters, you can still post as before in the OT, only without worthless, at least to self motivating and secure egos, brownie points. I rather doubt that more than a few dozen of even the "spammers" are more motivated by post count than by just wanting to post something.

	23-05-2001 18:48									#69
	Increase Your PM Length

I think the fact that OT post do not count any longer is really unfair to the "newer" visitors, especially in connection with the rule that you can have your unique avatar only with the "King" title.

This post has of course nothing to do with my current "Prince" status...

	23-05-2001 19:00									#70
	Brownie points? Support Apolyton, buy Galactic Civilizations

You're making me hungry, Lefty. I assure you that from my spot on the other side of this fence, your side looks like it's the one overreacting. Why does it matter so much to you that this doesn't matter? I'd call it reverse-whining if I thought it was really reversed.

Now, let the spammers have their posts. So what? Oh dear, I'm whining in reverse! It all matters so much to me! ...Now I'm gonna go bake!

	23-05-2001 23:07									#71
	Support Apolyton buy from Amazon

quote: Originally posted by Brtndr4u I guess my days are numbered here.Is this how a minority feels? Well,IT SUCKS!!!!!!since I'm a non-civer I don't exist . I didn't want to be a king anyhow. I know,I know,the reason I stayed was to become a Warlord as was the fears expressed during the Apolyton/Newsmax wars.I just wanted to get under Stefu and Theban's skin.Stodium even e-mailed me to ask me to leave which even made me want to stick it out more.But funny things happen in battle,I got addicted to the insight,intelligence,and the humor at Poly.The world view was different and the posters here had me looking at things from different slants.I can say being here for the last year(11 months)has improved my grammer and my attitude(right-wingnut spammer). For that I thank you all. Apolyton OT was a place I had to surf to everyday just to catch up on other views then the typical forums.I'll miss it. Wildbill

Hey, man....give it some time. I'd hate to see you or anybody else go....that is quite a testament to the OTF, and kind of the point I've tried to make. That forum is a big draw for this site....I don't understand why Mark is being such a tight ass about counts there...how about this: non-Civ titles in the Off Topic/posts count?
You could hit a little button or something in your Profile designating which "class" of Apolyton citizen you wish to belong to?
Whatever...I think the whole thing is kind of stupid...but Mark's arbitrariness is really starting to get on my nerves.
How about telling people what is going to happen so you can have a little discussion? If nothing else, I could have retrieved my PM's that were important to me...but no, you couldn't be bothered...that kind of thinking sucks, whether its "your site blah blah blah" or not--this community made you, Mark...stop being such an overlord and get down on the level for a change.

Good people are being driven away, it seems.

	23-05-2001 23:48									#72
	Get a bigger avatar today!

for the next few days you can access your old pm at http://apolyton.net/cgi-bin/ubb/privateview.cgi

	24-05-2001 00:24									#73
	Get a bigger avatar today!

Thank you...
I guess you aren't such a bad guy after all.

	24-05-2001 01:24									#74
	Support Apolyton, buy Civilization III: Complete

Mark perhaps some thought should be given to allowing custom Avatars for something other than 1000 posts. This is a bit unfair. Perhaps after 50 posts or a length of time.

	24-05-2001 02:55									#75
	Remove this text

Don't try appealing to his better nature. Try bribery. Send him money and prostitutes. The post-counts will be restored within days.

Seriously- the whole post-count issue got debased with the PCR "punishments". ACS is unduly hung up on the issue and it's blown out of all proportion. Ditching the lot would be the best solution.

	24-05-2001 04:42									#76
	Lazarus and the Gimp was a better name Support Apolyton, buy Civilization 2

I agree with Bugs. About the only interesting thing about the post count was as an accurate record of the posts you made. Once they started dicking with it to make infantile punishments through PCR's it became meaningless.

	24-05-2001 05:00									#77
	Re: Lazarus and the Gimp was a better name Get a bigger avatar today!

quote: Originally posted by Alexander's Horse Once they started dicking with it to make infantile punishments through PCR's it became meaningless.

Infantile actions deserve infantile punishments

	24-05-2001 10:27									#78
	Support Apolyton or Terrorists Win

Post counts are interesting if strictly used for chrome. It shouldn't be used as a measuring stick, particularly when some people are treated as less than equal than others. Some people like to post messages others don't. If you feel that a degree of contribution is needed before you can grant that person a special status it's fine, the problem arises when some contributions don't count. It seems that the Off Topic Forum is as much a part of Apolyton as every other forum.

I understand this was a <em>Civ</em> and gaming forum initially but Apolyton has evolved. Markos, doesn't the number of members affect ad income? Wouldn't it stand to reason then to draw in as many members as possible?

	24-05-2001 10:47									#79
	Re: Re: Lazarus and the Gimp was a better name Increase Your PM Length

quote: Originally posted by Ming Infantile actions deserve infantile punishments

You really take this stuff seriously, don't you.

	24-05-2001 15:41									#80
	No go on old pms Support Apolyton, buy Galactic Civilizations: Deluxe Edition

quote: Originally posted by MarkG for the next few days you can access your old pm at http://apolyton.net/cgi-bin/ubb/privateview.cgi

Mark, this doesn't work!!! I have tried for two days! I also posted that in the problems thread! Please help.

	24-05-2001 16:15									#81
	Increase Your PM Length

are you using the password you had on the previous forum?