23-05-2001 00:41									#1
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It seems as if the Hoplites were the greek special unit. A Hoplite is nothing other than the armed man within the phalanx. Similar equipment for heavy infantery were known among many other cultures. The really unique about the greeks was their phalanx, especially the macedonian phalanx.

So I think Firaxis shouls name the greek special unit Phalanx and give the "common" unit a different name.

	23-05-2001 01:23									#2
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Unique was also the greek fire but unfortunately I don;t think they chose that

As stated before phalanx is the name of different formations of men carrying shields and lances. I agree that Hoplites is too general. It can be anything... Even today the men that carry fire arms in the army are called hoplites.

	23-05-2001 16:45									#3
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quote: Originally posted by paiktis22 Unique was also the greek fire but unfortunately I don;t think they chose that

Wasn't the greek fire a later - byzantine - invention?

	23-05-2001 18:29									#4
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But the Byzantine empire was strongly influenced from the Greek culture, e.g. the language was Greek...

	23-05-2001 18:39									#5
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quote: Originally posted by Wernazuma III Wasn't the greek fire a later - byzantine - invention?

Ancient Athens used greek fire when fighting Roman invading ships during the conquest of the 4 remaining fragments of the hellenistic empire by Rome.
Slowed them down but didn;t doo much good

So it's older than Byzantium although it was used then as well.


Also unique could be the katoptron. This was big mirrors that were onboard greeks ships. They focus the rays of the sun on enemy ships and burned them. This was again used against Romans (now that I think about it we have burned and toasted the poor Romans to kingdom come before the got us )

	23-05-2001 18:59									#6
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Hey paiktis22, I read about the "mirror thing" in a book about Syracuse, they mentioned it as an invention of Archimedes there, but they also said it was very unsure if these things really saw combat action?

	23-05-2001 21:28									#7
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quote: Originally posted by BeBro But the Byzantine empire was strongly influenced from the Greek culture, e.g. the language was Greek...

thank you for the lesson.

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Well I think we can think of several unique greek units. Just take the fast corinthian trieres or the mighty hetairoi cavalry. But this would be too special. Every culture has its own little special units but the Phalanx is surely the most outstanding and best known.

	23-05-2001 23:55									#8
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No problem, since I learned the spelling of Bosporus from you...