23-05-2001 07:53									#1
	Unofficial Poll: How important is multi player? Support Apolyton, buy Civilization III: Complete

In light of the fact that Both Civ 1 and Civ 2 were initially designed and released as single player games, how important is multi player to you in Civ 3?

What I should have said for options 2 and 3 (but I can't edit them):

• Release earlier as single player, add multi player as a patch later.
  
• Release later as both single and multi player.
  

Last edited by The Rusty Gamer on 24-05-2001 at 07:10

	23-05-2001 13:54									#2
	Put an end to popups!

They'd better have PBEM! That's the most important IMO!

	23-05-2001 14:53									#3
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To me, or to the sales of Civ 3?

To me, not important at all since I hardly play MP. OTOH, MP is vital to the sales of the game.

	23-05-2001 16:27									#4
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MP is CRITICAL for any new game; the exception would be "edutainment" titles aimed a young children. When you look at the top selling PC games all have strong MP functions. Playing "solitar" is fun only for a little while. Play against real people brings an entirely new aspect to any game. Civ III needs not only Windows MP, but cross-platform MP with Linux and OS X as well!

	23-05-2001 17:21									#5
	Multiplayer Rules! Full PM-box? Change here!

Single player is okay for mild short term amusement but multiplayer is the future and really the only way to play these games!

I would go so far as to say if you have never multiplayed, you have never civved!

	23-05-2001 18:04									#6
	Support Apolyton, buy Civilization 2

I had to vote for the both option. MP is essential but so is single player.

Poll maker, you should have had as an option "Won't buy it without either."

	23-05-2001 18:25									#7
	Suffering from ads?

Of course both - single AND multi player are important

	23-05-2001 20:30									#8
	Support Apolyton, buy Galactic Civilizations

Well, I play both MP and SP games of SMAC at the moment, although the latter tends to have faded in quantity over time relative to the other. But both are a must. Even if you just intend to play MP, SP is a necessity to sharpen your teeth and get used to the game.

Personally, I enjoy a good few games of SP myself of any game, even now...

	23-05-2001 22:14									#9
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"Multi player only, forget all this AI stuff"

Please, only bother with options that make any logical & commercial sense.
After all; Civ-3 isnt exactly "Unreal" is it?

Also, the first option is ridicules - everybody expects multiplayer these days.

	24-05-2001 01:17									#10
	Enter the AD-FREE zone

it depends how good the ai is

	24-05-2001 02:11									#11
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I would have to say that I play multiplay in about 95% of the time. So Multiplay is very important to me, but then again, I like playing single player too (5%)

	24-05-2001 02:49									#12
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Well it is imperitive to have both. I want to have choice in what I play. Sometimes I like single player or multiplayer. But often, to me, multiplayer is not feasible because I have to coordinate a suitable time to be online and often I don't have that kind of time free in one lump. So as well as these two basic functions, PBEM is an absolute necessity...

	24-05-2001 07:03									#13
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quote: Originally posted by Ralf "Multi player only, forget all this AI stuff" Please, only bother with options that make any logical & commercial sense. After all; Civ-3 isnt exactly "Unreal" is it? Also, the first option is ridicules - everybody expects multiplayer these days.

And yet...both these options have been voted on.

	24-05-2001 07:12									#14
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quote: Originally posted by tniem I had to vote for the both option. MP is essential but so is single player. Poll maker, you should have had as an option "Won't buy it without either."

I thought the option Release as both single and multi player covered that.

	24-05-2001 09:56									#15
	Support Apolyton, buy Civilization: The Boardgame

i like multi play the best, so i definately want that. but my prob with it is that its so time consuming. So when i am short of time, single player is a must. so if it doesn't have both i will be severaly dissapointed.

	02-06-2001 18:44									#16
	Poll changes Support Apolyton, buy Civilization: The Boardgame

I've clarified the second and third options of the poll by editing the first post of this thread, the changes of which are highlighted in red .
So, does that make a difference to the way you vote?

	02-06-2001 21:01									#17
	Full PM-box? Change here!

Multiplayer is the least important thing for me. I say spend more time developing the workings of the game, then release multiplayer later on.

	02-06-2001 21:27									#18
	Support Apolyton, buy Call to Power 2

MP and SP. After all, it's much more fun to kill fellow humans.

	02-06-2001 21:34									#19
	Support Apolyton buy from Amazon

Everything at the same time, otherwise will they probably charge extra for it later.

	02-06-2001 21:59									#20
	Increase Your PM Length

MP is very very important, and like phoenixcager said "They'd better have PBEM!"

Seriously, I don't think the tech exist for an AI that could provide more entertainment than another human being, AI's use scripts, and after a while, you can easily predict them.

but with humans... oh.. devious li'l bastich....

MP is definitely important. and "They'd better have PBEM!"

	03-06-2001 00:46									#21
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For a long time I only played SP. Then I decided to play an online game, it was fun but it seemed as if it was to difficult to coordinate. I then played a Hot Seat game, it was more fun at the beginning than the internet game but became very boring because of the long turns. Finally I played a LAN game. Which in my opinion is the best way to play. You still have to wait for your turn to come around but you can do things while you're waiting. I actually spend more time doing stuff when it's not my turn rather than when it is my turn. LAN is the way to go for playing Civ, if you have the resources to do so. If not than SP is the best. So Civ III better have SP and Multiplayer with LAN because those are my two favorite ways to play.

	03-06-2001 11:37									#22
	Simulplay? Support Apolyton, buy Galactic Civilizations: Deluxe Edition

Does anyone know if there is going to be simultaneous single and/or multi play?

	03-06-2001 11:53									#23
	Avatar Enlargement: We've got the solution

I'm a long-ime Civ (and SMAC) player who never MPed, but I think I'm going to start with CivIII, since I won't have to buy an add-on to do so, and more importantly because of the increased importance of commodities. Also (and I'm not sure if it was the same in MP as in SP) the diplomacy options didn't make interactions between civs very interesting, or important in CivII, which will be very different given the possible complexity of treaties in CivIII. Needless to say I voted for both.

Alexander's Horse: Them's fightin' words!

Last edited by KrazyHorse on 03-06-2001 at 12:01

	03-06-2001 12:06									#24
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Firaxis has announced a few months back that there will be these multiplayer options:

- Lan
- Internet
- PBEM
- Hotseat

Personally my favourite options are hotseat and internet, and if Firaxis actually reconsiders these options i might think twice about buying the game.

	03-06-2001 14:26									#25
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Mp is critical for a lot of games now. FPS and RTS games are pretty boring solo, though they are useful for practice. But realistically, I'm probably still going to play a game like Civ3 solo. It's just not the kind of game you can pop in and out of.

	03-06-2001 16:41									#26
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I rarely play multi-player. But that doesn't mean it shouldn't be availiable in some form at a later time. I realise many other people play multi-player almost exclusively. And once one has mastered the AI, you can then move onto the Human challenge.

	03-06-2001 17:56									#27
	Support Apolyton, buy Civilization: The Boardgame

I will not buy the game unless there is a mp option. I don't care how rich the diplomatic system is or how challenging the AI will be; it comes down to within a couple months I will figure out how to beat the game at all levels and by all types of endgames.

I do like the option for a game designed as mp from scratch. But until there is a computer with net access in a good percentage of homes it will not be.

	03-06-2001 19:51									#28
	Increase Your PM Length

quote: Originally posted by Alex 14 Firaxis has announced a few months back that there will be these multiplayer options: - Lan - Internet - PBEM - Hotseat Personally my favourite options are hotseat and internet, and if Firaxis actually reconsiders these options i might think twice about buying the game.

Won't there be a modem to modem option? Why doesn't that get put into most games anymore? Some of us get free local calls so why should I have to pay my ISP to play MP against my friend?

	03-06-2001 23:48									#29
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quote: Originally posted by Russell Won't there be a modem to modem option? Why doesn't that get put into most games anymore? Some of us get free local calls so why should I have to pay my ISP to play MP against my friend?

With some tweaking I'm sure you may get that look as a LAN to the game , at least if you are using Windows.

	10-09-2001 11:23									#30
	Support Apolyton, buy Alpha Centauri

In light of recent news that multi-player may not be included in the first release of Civ3, I thought it might be time to bump this poll up to the top again.