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Chowlett is offline Chowlett
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And now for the real; kicker, GP - it's not like that all over Britain!

I went through a Scottish education, which bears similarities, but many differences. And it just changed.

When I did it, at the end of 2nd year (age 13/14) you chose a set of subjects to study for Standard Grade (equivalent of GCSE). There were usually 7 or 8, but it depended on school. Some went as high as 10. Of those, you had to do English, Maths, a science, a modern language and a humanity. The rest were free choice. These you studied for 2 years, then sat exams at the end of 4th year (age 15/16) to give your course grade, in combination with some form of coursework (usually. Not common in languages). You were awarded (so some unknown reason) grades 1,2,3,4,5,6, or 7. 7 is generally counted as "Fail", but I think is actually "Did so hugely badly we don't want to say", while the mythical 8 is a fail. Grades 1,2 are called Credit, 3,4 General, 5,6 Foundation. Usually you sat a General paper (grades 3 and 4 available), and then a Credit or Foundation depending on whether your teachers considered you clever or thick (I suspect you could decide yourself, but since the courses were significantly different according to which level of class you were in, it was usually a good idea to go the way suggested).

Then, you chose 5 (or sometimes 6) subjects to do at 5th year (ends 16/17). These would be Higher Grades (sort of AS level, but often considered A-Levels by Scottish Universities), or Scotvec Modules for the not-so-bright. Again, you had to take English and Maths, the other 3 were free choice. For Highers there was, as before, a final exam and usually a coursework element. These would combine to give a grade of A, B, C, D or F. E was technically possible, but practically impossible. I think it equated to "turned up, knew name, had some coursework but it wasn't very good." Every higher candidate sat the same paper. Modules had no final exam, they were based solely on coursework. I don't know the grading system, I didn't take any.

Then for the 6th and Final year (if your still around) (ends age 17/18), you choose a further set of subjects without any restrictions. You now have the option of taking Certificate of Sixth Year Studies (or CSYS or SYS - roughly A-Level standard, quite often a bit higher, although no-one took any notice of it), more Highers, more Modules. It was generally reckoned that 4 SYS was hard, 5 was very difficult and anything above 5 was sheer folly. These worked exactly like slightly harder Highers. The real kicker is that 5 A grade Highers will get you an unconditional offer to any Scottish uni to do any course except medicine, vet, and law.

And then, just as I leave, they change the system and I haven't a clue how it works now.

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And the other SGs accuse me of not being able to spell *makes a "p" noise while flinging head*
Daddy (said in my "insuferrably cute smilie filled way" ) your spelling is simply atrocious! <--- you are 8 all over again!
Don't ask!

The edit is because they were right...

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gee a thread re avatar became an independance thread and then move don thru to a school exam thread, whats next??? a whats for breakfast dad i am hungry thread ??

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Chowlett, Why does Scotland have a different sustem form the rest of England? Are they behind?

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As your sig states, Ras, known to irritate (and that's just your eccentric spelling ) - I guess if you have access to the IP addresses you would find three (mine at home, mine at work and SG(2)'s), but that would prove nothing -- I guess you will jsut (sic) have to trsut (sic) us


Well actually my spelling is wonderful, its my typing that lets me down, my fingers are trying to keep up with my erratic thought process, and because i am left handed , i think my left hand is responding quicker than my right and is hitting the left hand keys quicker than the right ones so quite i often i will mistype words,,,

what part of liverpool ar eyou guys (and gal) from.. did you see my post earlier re my friends and where they from , on my last visit to the mother land i actually drove thru liverpool and drove on down to the dock area there where they have done lots of modernisation Albert Docks i think they were called... it was way back in 1992 so might have changed for the worse again i guess...

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Chowlett, Why does Scotland have a different sustem form the rest of England? Are they behind?


do all states in the US us ethe same system... . down under here in aus land.. each state utilises completely different systems for school exams and so forth.. when moving interstate very hard to descrbe to potential employeers what the difference is and try to get some sort of comparison

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And the other SGs accuse me of not being able to spell *makes a "p" noise while flinging head*
Daddy (said in my "insuferrably cute smilie filled way" ) your spelling is simply atrocious! <--- you are 8 all over again!
Don't ask!

The edit is because they were right...


Or perhaps insufferably cute.

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whos cute... ?? SG{3} or SG{1} ???

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whos cute... ?? SG{3} or SG{1} ???


That would depend on whether you were 15/male/straight or 16+/male/gay

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That would depend on whether you were 15/male/straight or 16+/male/gay

Sorry, Mousey, I'm strictly hetero! (and so is SG(2)) It is possible for two males to actually be friends have common interests and enjoy downing a few bottles together without forming a sexual bond you know!

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Or perhaps insufferably cute.

In defence of my daughter - I think she was quoting GP ...
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...and still complain about Daddy in an insuferrably cute, smiley-filled way.
Mind you - it was spelled 'insufeerably' when I first peered over her shoulder.

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... Why does Scotland have a different sustem form the rest of England?

This could be taken as a declaration of war ...
The United Kingdom comprises Great Britain and Northern Ireland.
Great Britain consists of England, Scotland and Wales.
To suggest that Scotland is a part of England is a mortal insult to both nations!
To answer your question - no - not behind - Scotland has been traditionally less responsive to educational fashions and fads than England & Wales (which are governed as a single entity - historically Wales was formally conquered while James VI? of Scotland became James I of England and so Scotland has long maintained some small aspects of independence from the rest of the UK mainly in such areas as education and the legal system) thus resulting in the Scottish system often being seen as superior to that in England & Wales.

Ras - we all live in Formby a small town about 15 miles North of Liverpool.

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To make it simple, you are saying the education system in Scotland is mildy different and BETTER than the rest of the country?

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Ok SG dont rember going through that area.....

And why do peopel always assume Scotland is part of England, they are two distinct and separate countries...

They get their own Football (soccer ) teams representing them internationally., England palys international Cricket but ahvent seen too many games against Scotland. I think it is only at highest level of sport (olympics) that they combine to play under the banner of the United Kingdoms of Great Britain and Northern Ireland (to quote its proper name) but at the Commonwealth games ( a legacy from the Empire games created from when Britain was great) England, wales and scotland are represented separtely....


And for thoise wondering why it is actually called Great britain.. it was thus called to differentiate it from little Britain which was an area of France known as Brittany, which at one time was under control of the British ....

They were just brought under one king by James I (First in englnad cant rember what number he was for scotland they had a few James as king before that) .

A strange place indeed....

And that strangeness becomes greater when you consider all the different dialects they speak in and how small the island actually is~!!!!!

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Ok SG dont rember going through that area.....

And why do peopel always assume Scotland is part of England, they are two distinct and separate countries...



Same army, same foreign policy: one country with some regional differences. So it's all England in the end.

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your rigth it is one army but its a british army not English army !!

I guess its sort of like States in USA ... people in Southern American states probably dont like being called Yankees as that is reaally a reference to the Northern states... but in Australai we refer to all Americans as Septic Tanks as is rhymes with Yanks and also defines what we think of them

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Eh? Maybe? Anyhoo they all have funny accents as do you guys, too. All closer to England than to the US.

BTW: Brisbane? That was the one town I gave a pass to on my way up the coast...well gave a pass to Townsend also...

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Sorry, Mousey, I'm strictly hetero! (and so is SG(2)) It is possible for two males to actually be friends have common interests and enjoy downing a few bottles together without forming a sexual bond you know!


Must quote Foghorn Leghorn.

"You're built too low son, the fast ones go over your head."

(edit - fixed quote)

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gee a thread re avatar became an independance thread and then move don thru to a school exam thread, whats next??? a whats for breakfast dad i am hungry thread ??


Hmm... you should someday try the Istvanistani off-topic. ( http://pub66.ezboard.com/frepublicofistvanistanfrm5 ). As of yet, I haven't seen any thread staying in the same topic for longer than ten posts.

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After review...that board is crap! It's just full of very boring spam. Worse than ACOL. I found one thread which had 100 posts, about 80% of which were two guys quoting the exact same comment back and forth to each other.

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SG{3}
Well, i am insufferably cute , more insufferable than cute but never mind...
I believe we have moved on to a new subject, which is as of yet not definable, if I decide I don't like it I'll cry about thread-jacking!
I don't care about what king did what or some silly devolution-ish thing going on...
we are supposedly becoming part of Europe, yet we cannot stay the UK we must be lots of little bits before we join Europe, some one explain the logic in that to me...

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Correct me if I'm wrong (and I probably am), but isn't Great Britain and Ireland separate and independant countries with England, Wales, Scotland and Northern Ireland being kind of like states of Great Britain?

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Yeah, that's right, England, Wales, Scotland and Northern Ireland are Great Britain and the Republic of Ireland is separate.
But I am sure some one will correct me on something in this post...

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Yeah, that's right, England, Wales, Scotland and Northern Ireland are Great Britain and the Republic of Ireland is separate.
But I am sure some one will correct me on something in this post...


Hey y'all that live there don't even sound so confident on the details. Maybe you need some better O-levels in Geography?

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Actually, isn't Great Britain simply England, Scotland and Wales (since Britain is the name of their common island), while the United Kingdom actually includes N. Ireland as well? (For now; only for now...*begins to sing "The Rifles of the IRA", but then regains his senses*)

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After review...that board is crap! It's just full of very boring spam. Worse than ACOL. I found one thread which had 100 posts, about 80% of which were two guys quoting the exact same comment back and forth to each other.


As an added comment, my real name is Ari Rahikkala. So there.

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GP, actually, it looks like almost five people post there... Worse than ACOL? That's low.

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Cant be bothered going to other forums to post, too much fun here...

And as for bypassing Brisbane, even most aussies seem to pass over us, we are regarded as the rednecks of the coutnry, sort of like Southern US states...But honeslty were not like that all we dont all marry our cousins and have children with two heads... Just some of us do that !!!!

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Yeah, that's right, England, Wales, Scotland and Northern Ireland are Great Britain and the Republic of Ireland is separate.


To clarify...

England + Scotland + Wales = "Great Britain"

England + Scotland + Wales + Northern Ireland = "The United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland" (or United Kingdom for short)
UK + Eire (Republic of Ireland) = "British Isles" - this is merely a geographical term.

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doesnt the british isles also include all the little islands like the Islae of Mann ?? possibly the channel islands too ??

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Does it make sense to think of the other countries as colonies of England? And why is the Prince of Wales, the prince of Wales? Does he get to rule over it?

And when was Wales?

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doesnt the british isles also include all the little islands like the Islae of Mann ?? possibly the channel islands too ??


No, they have their own law, their own democratic institutions and have a quasi-autonomous existence. They don't, however, have their own foreign policy or currency and they do owe fealty to the Queen. (There are some Acts of the UK parliament which are specified to apply to the Isle of Man so the position there must be a little different - I'm hazy about that).

 
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