27-05-2001 02:34									#1
	New to Linux. Suffering from ads?

I'm new to Linux and want to play freeciv, the problem is I don't know a thing about installing stuff and I don't know where to get freeciv.

I am running:

SuSE Linux 7.1
Kernel 2.4
GeForce 2 MX
XFree86 [don't know version]
PIII
256MB RAM

Can anyone help?

Whilst on the subject, where can I get games for Linux?

	27-05-2001 05:19									#2
	Got spare money?

It is extremely likely that there is a freeciv package on one of your suse CDs. I guess you can use whatever userfriendly package management tool comes with suse to install it.

But as you know, real men use the latest CVS version of freeciv

Here is how download and compile a copy of the latest CVS:

• on http://www.freeciv.org/latest.html you can get the latest development snapshot. download it by clicking in your browser, or as I prefer, execute the command "wget ftp://www.freeciv.org/pub/freeciv/l...-Jun-04.tar.bz2" on the command line. Either thing should leave a file "freeciv-cvs-Jun.04.tar.bz2" in your home directory.
  
• From here on everything is on the command line. Note how the file ends on ".bz2". That is a compression format like ".zip", and we unpack it to "freeciv-cvs-Jun-04.tar" via the command "bunzip2 freeciv-cvs-Jun-04.tar.bz2"
  
• A ".tar" file is a archive of uncompressed files. To split the archive out into it's files do a "tar -xvf freeciv-cvs-Jun-04.tar". That should give you a directory named "freeciv"
  
• "cd freeciv"
  
• Now we get ready to compile. Execute the command "./configure". If you installed developments packages this should not return an error message. If it returns an error message it is probably because you need to install something. It should be possible to figure out which package to install from the suse CD. Or you can ask here .
  
• Now we are ready to compile. Compile it by running "make"
  
• Finished! When standing in the freeciv directory you can start a server as "./ser" and a client as "./civ". You might want to start a server and a client at the same time by typing "./civ & ./ser". To start the game push the clients connect button, type "set aifill 3" in the server and then type "start" in the server.
  

Last edited by Thue on 06-06-2001 at 20:29

	27-05-2001 10:23									#3
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I am also relatively new to Linux. My girlfriend put it on our machine awhile ago, and I kept saying I would get around to learning it, but kept putting that off. about 2 weeks ago, windows died, and for some reason has refused to be reinstalled. So we gave up for the time being and I have been slowly learning Linux since then.

We have Redhat 7, and the version number of Freeciv that came with it matches up with what is claimed to be the latest version number on the Freeciv website. Would there be anything new if I were to download the latest CVS version?

	27-05-2001 15:13									#4
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Yes. The latest CVS version is what will become 1.12.0. Look in the NEWS file to see what's changed since 1.11.4 (your version): http://www.freeciv.org/lxr/source/NEWS

Do remember that the latest CVS version may have a few bugs .

	27-05-2001 15:38									#5
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quote: Originally posted by ! Whilst on the subject, where can I get games for Linux?

Linux ports of games can be bought from loki: http://www.lokigames.com/ . They have SMAC and ctp!

I was a bit surprised that civ-evolution just worked with WIN(dows)E(mulator). Starcraft works with it too (though battle.net doesn't yet)!

You may want to look around on www.linuxgames.com .
A nice little game is penguin-command, which has it's home at www.linux-games-com (yes, almost the same URL )

	28-05-2001 00:58									#6
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Thanks a lot for the help, that is great. I tried to use the WINE a few weeks ago but with no luck, nothing worked with it, just gave me crap about couldn't initiate windows installer

I'd love to be able to play windows games with Linux too

Guess I gotta give Loki my hard earned cash.

	28-05-2001 00:59									#7
	Re: Re: New to Linux. Avatar Enlargement: We've got the solution

quote: Originally posted by Thue I was a bit surprised that civ-evolution just worked with WIN(dows)E(mulator). Starcraft works with it too (though battle.net doesn't yet)!

That isn't so surprising Thue, Civ-evolution onlu uses the basic windows interface, no directx...no problems.

So, what's your opinion on Civ-evolution?

	28-05-2001 02:04									#8
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The interface is very polished, look-wise. Nice use of icons.
Freeciv has better interface functionality, though.

I liked how he had rewamped the tech tree - such a rewamp is long overdue in freeciv too.
The unit workshop was cool . If we rewamp the tech tree we might be able to get much of the same effect by having branches for units, if we don't want to implement a unit workshop. The mass production special ability is cool!

I really, really missed stuff like the freeciv goto, auto explore, auto settlers, patrol, etc. If it had been freeciv I would also have applied my auto ferryboat patch before I played .

The AI is very, very weak. But they don't claim otherwise...

They are going to have to do a lot of work if they want to make it multiplayer over network.

Freeciv has 10 times as many lines of code; I don't know what I can conclude from that . The freeciv source code is also easier to read, except from the freeciv AI, which is unreadable .

I found a bug in their isometric view drawing!

	28-05-2001 02:13									#9
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in civ-evo all the squares a unit has visited this turn remains visible until end of turn. I will have to add that to freeciv at one point.
They have a primitive form of borders. That will probably go into freeciv too...

	28-05-2001 08:50									#10
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quote: Originally posted by ! Whilst on the subject, where can I get games for Linux?

Grab a C++ book and run the manual pages for GCC, then get crackin'.

	06-06-2001 14:07									#11
	Re: New to Linux. Suffering from ads?

quote: Originally posted by ! XFree86 [don't know version]

You can find out the version of your XFree86 in kcontrol -> Information -> X-server. It is something like "4003".