28-05-2001 00:05									#1
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Just to see who used them as a weapon.

	28-05-2001 01:14									#2
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It looks like people mostly on a sole oppent they have hated from the begaining of time.

	28-05-2001 01:30									#3
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I originally wouldn't use them in Civ2, but recently Ive used them a lot, mainly because I found them fun. Usually though I'd rather not use nukes.

	28-05-2001 02:22									#4
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I didn't voted because I didn't find my option which is:

whenever and if it's needed I'll nuke. It's all about how the game progresses and what I must or must not do in order to win.

But the vast majority of times I don;t need to nuke anybody so I don't.

	28-05-2001 02:33									#5
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Since most civs didn't nuke me if I didn't nuke them it never seemed as a good idea. All that re-building takes a lot of time that I could use bombing his cities with bombers instead

	28-05-2001 02:46									#6
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personally, i use nukes as a regular part of my arsenal.

even if i have no land troops near an enemy, i'll just send a sub over and nuk 8 of their key cities, knocking out half their pop, messing up their roads/irragation, and making all that pollution.

i then yell at them for not cleaning it up.

oh, when you fight humans, if they group sea units, its fun to nuke them over the ocean (no side effects)

	28-05-2001 05:12									#7
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I once destroyed the largest nation on the planet who had a military twice my size by nuking every city and sending a mech inf around to each one.

	28-05-2001 06:58									#8
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nukes are the great equalizer. play the ww2 scenario and cheat, and give the turks nukes. not just the tech, literally give them like 20 nuke units.

then watch them slap the nazis around.

	28-05-2001 10:47									#9
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I launched a arsonal of Nukes on every city in the world that I could see. The world population was cut in 1/2 and my eniemies were soon destoried. There is no denying that the Nuke is the most deadly weapon in the game.

	28-05-2001 22:04									#10
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Looks like about 50% of the people like paying rivals back for long bad realitions.

	28-05-2001 22:18									#11
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Since most of the civilizations I play against stab me in the back and declare war on me or eventually demand some sort of tribute or ally against me- I usually fight every civ.

Thus, to even the anger, I nuke every civs' capital city as soon as I can.

This greatly increases my enjoyment of the game and even when there is global warming I have no worries because none of my cities ever reaches above size 15.

	28-05-2001 22:21									#12
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It is amazing how something a civ did 1000 year ago can still give you the will to Nuke them. I think it should send a strong message to other civs when someone breaks a treaty and attacks you and than the civ who betried you suddenly doesn't have very many people anymore.

	29-05-2001 01:21									#13
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I voted Never, however, it would have been nice to have a 'Never in Random type games. But Always in Scenarios that promote Nuclear Halocaust' (IE World War 3 scenarios)

	29-05-2001 01:38									#14
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quote: I once destroyed the largest nation on the planet who had a military twice my size by nuking every city and sending a mech inf around to each one

My civ2 strategy was always to build loads of engineers to transform the landscape. Once complete I would build enough nukes to take out all of a civ's city based armies and invade every city with an engineer. On the same turn I could clear up most if not all the pollution produced with the said engineers.

Environmentally friendly, deadly and efficient.

	29-05-2001 02:01									#15
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Ya in CTP I actually cleaned up the mess I made by Nukeing this one city. I hope CIV3 shows the fear of an eniemy who has nukes when you don't. Knowing that they could destroy your whole army and civilization with the push of a botton leaving you defensless is a scary thought.

	29-05-2001 03:42									#16
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I've been involved in many nuclear conflicts in Civ2. To put it mildly, it wasn't pretty.

Though, if used wisely, nukes can be very useful.

	29-05-2001 03:47									#17
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I over used Nukes in Civ II. They were way too powerful and became necessary in many situations. And once you had SDIs there really wasn't much reason not too. Something needs to be done and what has been proposed, I would be for.

	29-05-2001 03:59									#18
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Once you have your most valuable cities protected and you know your eniemies don't have SDI, its bombs away.

	29-05-2001 04:35									#19
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It looks like only 15% of the people don't use Nukes. This makes since because if you are attacked and you have the capility to strike back it seems logical you would.

	29-05-2001 04:56									#20
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I never used nukes in CivII; I once used one in CivI: Alexander backstabbed me and sank a valuable troop transport (3 units lost) , so, as a retaliation, I nuked Athens. I noted, however, that it wasn´t worth it in terms of global pollution, and never again used a nuke.

	29-05-2001 21:08									#21
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I always nuked them when the sunk my transports with men in them. Hated that.

	29-05-2001 22:19									#22
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Well, personally I hope that Civ3 has much steeper penalties for the use of nukes. In the prior CIV's it was too easy to get a lot of nukes and just destroy all the otehr Civ's and then win the game before the global pollution got to be too much of a problem.


Edit: I have now reached the elevated status of Warlord!!!

	30-05-2001 01:04									#23
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It seems every one on this thread has some emotional problems when it comes to losing those troop transports! Retaliation by nuking is okay, but nukes work best when ya plan it out thoroughly in advance. I figure if you're sending troop transports, you're probably at war. And if you're at war, why not launch? One of the dirtiest tricks in CTP is to build a ton of underwater bases and nuke everyone at once. Combine your nukes with strip mining on the surface, and you'll have so much polution that all the land cities get submerged. There's nothing more refreshing than drinking some Canadian whiskey while watching your enemy's cities get sunk.

	30-05-2001 03:14									#24
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Well your idea about sending the earth to hell might work but at a price. Some people try not to use nukes but alot of used troops and unsuccesful attacks might make them use the ultime weapon.

	30-05-2001 04:32									#25
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quote: Originally posted by Conquesticus I figure if you're sending troop transports, you're probably at war. And if you're at war, why not launch?

Nah; first, I always try to play as realistically as possible. Second, in that particular game I was at war with the Chinese, not the Greeks. The Chinese had as many nukes as I, so I didn´t want to escalate. The Greeks were totally backward, they had just figured out the steam engine and used it to sink a transport that was critical for my war effort against the Chinese. So I didn´t nuke the Chinese, but I did nuke Athens!

	30-05-2001 04:57									#26
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I mostly only nuke ships, effective and no pollution

	30-05-2001 04:58									#27
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In the WW2 senoiro u could just nuke hitler fleet right of the sea.