30-05-2001 07:15									#1
	Should I give Hydey nukes? Support Apolyton buy from Amazon

Okay, finbar hydey and I are moving into the end game of a very interesting little scenario. Its 1930. finbar is ahead in techs but I am ahead in pop. Hydey is struggling but still in the game.

It looked like, and still does, a game headed for space race, an unusual bird in multiplayer games. We should get all the necessary techs by about 1980. We would get them sooner but finbar won't trade techs with me. He claimed it would slow him down.

So just to make life interesting, and particularly to express my displeasure at finbar's unwillingness to level the tech paying field in what has been a very peaceful game to date, I just built the Manhattan project.

Of course the game would be even more interesting if I gave nukes to Hydey. He has nothing to lose, the perfect rogue state, wild card, whatever, or perhaps model international citizen.

What should I do?

	30-05-2001 07:42									#2
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I think you should start a Nuclear Holocaust of epic proportions.
Screw getting into space for the very first time.

	30-05-2001 09:24									#3
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I say NUKEM!! NUKE THE BASTARDS!! Ride the bomb yelling YEEEEEEEHAAAAAAA!!

	30-05-2001 10:41									#4
	Lose 30 kilos (of popups)

Of course if finbar should decide to trade techs with me - as a friendly nation would, I might have more confidence in a 2 civ nuclear detente.

	30-05-2001 12:21									#5
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Oh, so now its "screw Hydey" is it?
You're a fickle little bastard aren't you?

	30-05-2001 12:50									#6
	Sneak has been acting rather strangely lately Got spare money?

Are you okay Sneak? Its not the first rather bitter horse flame from you this week.

	30-05-2001 13:52									#7
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You can trust me Dad, I will just be the ballance of power providing world peace.

	30-05-2001 16:29									#8
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use the threat of giving the nukes to Hydey to force Finbar to trade techs.
then give hydey the nukes anyway!!

	30-05-2001 17:27									#9
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*cough* Space Race is for sissies *cough*

Unleash the nukes!

	30-05-2001 19:26									#10
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you would use any other weapon at your disposal..... if you had a boatload of howies....... you would use em.......

strike first ASSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS soon as you get them ...... use the force..... it works for me

	30-05-2001 20:37									#11
	Re: Sneak has been acting rather strangely lately Support Apolyton, buy GURPS/ Alpha Centauri

quote: Originally posted by Alexander's Horse Are you okay Sneak? Its not the first rather bitter horse flame from you this week.

Ooops, I forgot something...


Actually, I'm in a great mood lately...I just figure Hydey needs some backup in that viper's pit you guys call a group.

Smilies have been annoying me lately, so please add your own wink or smile to anything untoward I say...you'll know it if I really mean it, because my post will be dripping with purple prose.

That should about cover it.

	30-05-2001 20:38									#12
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The only nukes you should give him are the ones launched via ICBM from Horseland !!!!!

	31-05-2001 02:49									#13
	Put an end to popups!

The polls are looking good so far, Finbarville will look nice with a mushroom cloud over head , I mean yes yes I will keep the peace.

	31-05-2001 15:36									#14
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Won't someone pleeeeze think of the children?

	03-06-2001 05:07									#15
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"No good deed goes unpunished".

"All pigeons come home to roost".

"It's easier to stab a friend from behind than the enemy facing you".

By all means, give Hydey the nukes...........

	03-06-2001 08:42									#16
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the real desicion Horse has to make is whether he can beat me and finbar or does he give me nukes to take out half of finbars civ and ensure a Horse victory.

	03-06-2001 16:15									#17
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If I win this game I'll expect 2 more votes in the best player poll.

	04-06-2001 17:33									#18
	Suffering from ads?

The mushroom clouds look wonderful daddy dearest.
Much pollution around finbarville

	04-06-2001 17:55									#19
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For those who voted, Hydey stole rockets from finbar and immediately built a nuke and blew up his capital.

I suppose that was inevitable - I don't know why I had a poll really

	04-06-2001 18:33									#20
	what a waste ... Support Apolyton, buy Galactic Civilizations: Deluxe Edition

Yes, but I was ready for his attack anyway. That's why I was able to wipe out his capital. And move mine. And reoccupy my old capital in the same turn.

	05-06-2001 03:33									#21
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I was ready for his counter attack, that is why I moved my capital and reocupied my old capital and wiped out the romans all in the one turn. Next session will tell who I allow to win this game as I never could starting on the pole.

Perhaps those who did not have the balls to steel techs from finbar to get nukes will have clouds over there civ soon.

	05-06-2001 06:08									#22
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Hey Hydey. Would nukes get rid of my Onion Weed?

	05-06-2001 07:28									#23
	Ambassador Hydey is on the line Support Apolyton, buy Civilization: The Boardgame

A classic piece of Hydey play here. To keep him in the game, I gifted him all my techs. I did this several times. When he stole rocketry I asked for it. "What's in it for me?" he replied

	05-06-2001 10:04									#24
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Hope you built lots of SDI before HYDEY looks elsewhere for mass destruction

	05-06-2001 10:11									#25
	You didnt have nukes to give Remove this text

Just realsied that all along you didnt even have nukes to give him, Finbar was only one with Rocketry... !!!!!!

	05-06-2001 12:29									#26
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quote: Originally posted by Alexander's Horse A classic piece of Hydey play here. To keep him in the game, I gifted him all my techs. I did this several times. When he stole rocketry I asked for it. "What's in it for me?" he replied

You too, huh? Early on, I gifted him sh*tloads of techs several times - not to mention money - to keep him in the game. Now the twayt nukes me. Is a pattern emerging in Hydey's behaviour?

	05-06-2001 13:38									#27
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One thing we can say I think is that by detonating that nuke Hydey signalled that he is a fully fledged player now. So be it no-one should feel bad from now on about his situation in the game

	05-06-2001 16:55									#28
	look out horsie Tired of ads?

Did I give you rockets horsie?

Maybe you should have crushed me earlier boys for now I will be a pain in the arse for the rest of my time in the game.

	06-06-2001 02:37									#29
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quote: Originally posted by Hydey for now I will be a pain in the arse for the rest of my time in the game.

Now? Only now?

	06-06-2001 03:55									#30
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quote: Originally posted by finbar Is a pattern emerging in Hydey's behaviour?

I suspect the pattern will be spend the whole game doing nothing much until he either gets wiped out or gets nukes. Then if he gets nukes fire them all over the place.