09-06-2001 05:48									#1
	news on fog of war? Tired of ads?

Just wondering if anyone has any news on the "fog of war" concept as it relates to the Civ 3 map?

I know that civ 2 had a "nongraphical" fog of war, being that you just didn't see what went on if your units or cities weren't right next to the event, but the map looked the same regardless.

I think that the darkened 'fog of war' zones are a good idea so you can tell what areas you don't have direct surveillance over. Plus it makes the map look cooler.

Are there going to be any extra features that make use of the 'fog of war', or is it basically the same as Civ 2, just a graphics change?

(I'd like to see an option to station or hide a diplo/spy in an enemy city so you can see everything that goes on in that city's radius, until they find & expel your diplo/spy).

	09-06-2001 07:43									#2
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quote: Originally posted by Captain Just wondering if anyone has any news on the "fog of war" concept as it relates to the Civ 3 map?

i have no clue

quote: (I'd like to see an option to station or hide a diplo/spy in an enemy city so you can see everything that goes on in that city's radius, until they find & expel your diplo/spy).

this is a great idea

	09-06-2001 08:20									#3
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OOOOHHHHHHH...

UberKruX likey.

but in the screenshots i didnt see any darkened areas.

	09-06-2001 09:37									#4
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Not in the screenshots, perhaps; in the video at 1:05 you can see fog of war (darkened area, but the terrain is visible).

	09-06-2001 09:49									#5
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Here. I made a page with a vidcap on it. Sorry about the quality; GIFs do that to you.

	09-06-2001 13:51									#6
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Both http://www.gamespy.com/e3/civ3/image17.jpg and http://www.gamespy.com/e3/civ3/image18.jpg has darkened areas where no American units have sight, so I guess it's in.

	09-06-2001 20:18									#7
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i withdraw my statement about there not being fog of war. i was looking at screens where the whole map was revealed.

damn cheating firaxians.

oh, and i love your diplo idea.

Last edited by Inverse Icarus on 09-06-2001 at 22:17

	10-06-2001 01:44									#8
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This would be a good option in civ.

	10-06-2001 03:46									#9
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I like the spy idea. CTP2 had one like it but you had to keep your diplo outside their capital had only had a chance of seeing the whole of their map.
How many times have I said that " CTP2 had something like that " god if they only used those ideas well we'd already have a civ3

	10-06-2001 04:19									#10
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Yes, the spy idea is really great. And presumably if it was a veteran spy, he/she would have a better chance of remaining undetected for longer. As well as just observing, how about doing some sabotage from time to time -- which would of course increase the risk of detection, but might be worth it?

	10-06-2001 12:20									#11
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Civ2 has a partial FOW that hides other civs' units and city size, but silly enough to show barbarian activities and tile improvements(you can see 'new' irrigation and roadbuilding when it is supposed to be in the dark).

I hope that Firaxis will not make the FOW as incomplete as in civ2.