10-06-2001 16:58									#1
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can someone please explain or point me to a thread on the buying setlers/grainbox thing, i seem to have missed that one !

	10-06-2001 18:38									#2
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Whole point is to rush (incrementaly) buy the settlers in right time so you have to wait only one turn before your city grows in size again. If you like,go to cheat mode and test this with different city size,count the grain etc.
Me? No thanks. I like to play Civ2.

	11-06-2001 21:38									#3
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quote: Whole point is to rush (incrementaly) buy the settlers in right time so you have to wait only one turn before your city grows in size again. If you like,go to cheat mode and test this with different city size,count the grain etc. Me? No thanks. I like to play Civ2.

Wait, you don't want to tweak every single little detail in your favor so that you can be the ultimate king of civ? You don't spend hours trying to figure out the best strategies for being #1? you like actually playing the game the way it was designed to?

What may I ask is wrong with you

	15-06-2001 23:57									#4
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and what is the advantage of this buying settlers in this fashion...

	16-06-2001 03:13									#5
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THere is none. Only morons do it. You might buy yourself a turn or two max. But it screws other things up that I'm not going to go into. Better off to just maximize your proudction if you want to build settlers fast rather than buy them.

	16-06-2001 03:59									#6
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The advatage is what eyes just said, it buys you a turn or two. But all in all, if you can micromanage your cities well enough, then there is no need to level buy a settler. Save the gold for something better I say.

	16-06-2001 11:32									#7
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you maximise sheild production, not trade ???

	17-06-2001 01:08									#8
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lol Of course. How else would I be able to expand so fast. You make up for the trade by having so many cities.

	17-06-2001 06:06									#9
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exactly

	17-06-2001 12:53									#10
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Chosen is spelled this way...

not Choosen...

eyes and kuja, change your sig lines, you look illiterate like strat...

	17-06-2001 13:43									#11
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ok how bout pollution control under 2x2x

	17-06-2001 21:36									#12
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I thought it looked a bit weird when I spelled it choosen, but I was too lazy to go look it up.

	17-06-2001 21:47									#13
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i figured it was just american spelling again, they change all the english words to their own spelling eg colour = color

	17-06-2001 23:03									#14
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Hmmm - If it is not a benefit to rush-build settlers in order to get a new city established faster (clearly an important advantage), then that suggests that having gold for other purposes is of some considerable importance.

For what purpose is the gold being accumulated, I wonder? Is it to rush-build *other* units? To buy barracks? To avoid being bribed? Does it's mere existence have some effect on the other aspects of the game?

	17-06-2001 23:13									#15
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I don't know about all of that... I use my gold for a lot of things.. usually I will partially rush build a settler about 2 rows full then make production in that city at least 7 shields so the settler pops out in 3 turns... I don't think I ever fully rush build anything, instead it just micromanage my shields along with the partial buying of units to get lots of cities to build quicker rather than just one

	20-06-2001 15:41									#16
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well i usually rush buy units but never all the way just enough to get them down to 2 or 3 turns i like to use most my gold for carvans as well my question for kuja and eyes is whats the best use of gold for you i cant imagine either of you buying marketplaces or anything like that.

	20-06-2001 19:34									#17
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i use my money to rush the missing shields during settler production...... again i wont rush one completely either as it eats up too much gold in the early game.

Besides its nice to have some cash to rush a market or library in your cap or even better the extremely important aquaduct for growth.

	20-06-2001 19:50									#18
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I agree with War4 and the others, I will buy up when it makes sense. (like buying up through the second rack with 7 shield production to get it in 3 additional turns). The only time I will rush buy the whole settler is if I lose a city or settler real early and need to make up growth real fast. Otherwise I like to have a little spare gold sitting around for emergencies or capital improvements. Or if I don't get the any happiness wonders and need to rush buy temples after 12 cities.

RAH

	21-06-2001 04:46									#19
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What I save my gold for depends on the kind of game I'm playing... if it's a small map bribe duel, I'll save it for dips, if it's medium map I'll make trade routes. Usually it's there for caravans though, them things are powerful

	21-06-2001 16:11									#20
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I rush buy settlers when:
1. My capitol is size 1 and it is my only city
2. The grainbox of the previous level is full the next turn.
3. To fill up a line.

The under 2 is expensive if you have to rush buy complete lines. If you have a production of 3 shields in a city, and the grainbox of previous level will be filled in 4 turns, it is cheaper to buy the settler in 4 turns, where every time 3 shields of a line are filled. (given you have already researched a 20 shield unit and a 30 shield unit tech).

Saying that you dont use this because it costs too much money is plain ignorance. It does not cost much money if you do it well, and it saves more then 2 or 3 turns if you micromanage all your cities. I believe it costs less gold to buy settlers then building the cities with shields because you get less tax from using trade fields.

	21-06-2001 18:23									#21
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It does depend though, if it's that early in the game, it is unlikely that you have warrior code or writing so you can't buy up that third rack. And then it's expensive. After I have one of those, I agree and will complete the rack every turn to complete them in four turns as long as the money holds out.

RAH