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I confirm that Darth! Great. See you on Saturday!!
Last edited by quinns on 04-07-2001 at 00:28
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blackice
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Canada where else...
Sep 2000
time: 00:14
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2. All players must agree on rated status, settings, and victory conditions, before starting the game.
(To avoid confusion and disputes an email outlinning the agreement exchanged between the players? Bringing up the point of how to handle disputes? The game is put on hold until resolved?)
3. No bug utilization tricks will be allowed. Any player found to be using those tricks will be ejected from the CTP Internet Ratings.
(Unless each player agrees to use them in the game agreement? As we know this is the biggest setback of GL NOT informing the other player (Usually a newbie.) of it before the game starts. So I would suggest if they choose to use it it must be in the email game agreement, (Game contract))
5. All disputes will be adjudicated by Quinns, (unless, of course, Quinns is participating in the game in dispute, in which case an alternate judge will be chosen before beginning the game).
(I can offer my time to judge if so desired as it would seem the easiest way to view game saves is with two people replaying the game saves?)
Rating Change Table: It has been suggested that a maximum points win loss of .500 for any game. Is this to be posted in the forum here?
Also between this rating system and GL what is the difference to promote game play between newbies and high rankers? Something I think is very important, an example would be a win/loss rating promotes play with all. Are we going to have a manditory top ten play off? Monthly or quarterly just an idea. What about rated quarterly tournaments? That cleans the closet lol. As for our game it is finished lol  well sort of hehehe . It would seem if the ratings system are what I have seen in emails then I am a go to sign on.
I have to say GL sucks lol ok what I mean is it is finished the way a few players have done things they have simply ruined it for all. I still see so called top players suckering newbies I am extremely vocal about it and would encourage all to do the same No wonder no one plays anymore with the patch mind you. I reloaded the game last weekend and went online with the limited servers and it was packed lol.
(something else and ensure that all players get equal starting locations.)
Equal land to start now that would be helpful, as we know land (Starting postion) can make or break a game. So much rides on the land factor so if you could come up with a mod like that you would be king
(Haven't tried making mods for Online)
The accellerated mod works fine so far online, a few kinks but fine. Yet I still use 5000 gold and 5 settlers it seems to be fast enough, 2 to 3 sittings the game is generally over.
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quinns
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Thanks Gavrushka. I don't really need any help with the Internet Rating system THE WAY IT STANDS RIGHT NOW. But if we start getting more members, we really should think about starting our own site to handle this automatically. We could even include the CTP PBEM Rating system with this new site??
I agree with Gavrushka. I think the "multiplying by 100" is a good idea. The only reason I used the 18, 19, 20,... etc. point system was because I already had the programs available to rate and report in that format. In tennis, (that was what the rating system was first designed for), the difference in ratings was meaningful, in that it showed the "average" number of tennis games that the higher rated player would defeat the lower rated player per SET.
Multiplying the current rating number by 100 makes good sense to me. In this case, the modified formulas for calculating the probability of the lower rated player winning as follows:
Probability_Lower_Rated = 1 / ( 2 + ( HIGHER_RATED/100 - LOWER_RATED/100) ^ 2)
Then:
If higher rated player wins:
Change in Ratings =100 * Probability / 2
and if the lower rated player wins:
Change in Ratings = 100 * (1 - Probability) / 2
By examing the formulas, you can see that the maximum Change in Ratings can be no more that 50 points per game (assuming a two player game). In multiplayer games, a player can lose no more than 50 points per person that they lose to at the end of the game.
Last edited by quinns on 06-07-2001 at 21:52
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quinns
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CTP INTERNET RATINGS GAME RESULTS
Game Name: Fatboy
Game Number: 2
Participants (in turn order): Quinns, Gavrushka.
Order of Finish: Quinns, Gavrushka.
Comments: I had better trade goods, and got off to a good start. Gavrushka was keeping up, but I found Electricity in a Ruins in 1040 a.d. That put me over the edge. Good Game Gavrushka!! Rematch next week, and better luck next time.
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Boney
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Thailand
Jan 2001
time: 05:14
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Hi Gavrushka et al
I am available at 6pm, though I am in Thailand and this would be midnight for me. But like you i will suffer and stay awake. How do I join the internet game fraternity. I have played ctp over the net, but I get bored starting a game and then all the other competitors drop out, so rated games over the net suits me. But I have been playing a lot of ctp2 recently, wes wittakers medmod II, 'cos my ctp disc got scratched. But I bought a new one last weekend, and it is the real McCoy. Usually here in Thailand I would buy a copy, unfortunately ctp is so unpopular here that I had to buy the real thing, cost me 5pounds as opposed to the 2pounds that ctp2 copy costs. I will check this forum at 11pm Thai time, 5pm eng time, if I see no reply I will carry on playing a single player ctp2 (impossible??) medmod II game that I have started. I will probably be playing alone until 5 or 6am if i hear nothing.
I have not posted here in a while 'cos of computer probs. I used to post more on the civ2 forum, but my civ2 disc got trashed.
When I was in England 2 months ago there were many lobbies, but now I only see us and eng, is that 'cos I am here in Thailand, or have the other lobbies been discontinued?
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Boney
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Thailand
Jan 2001
time: 05:14
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Thanks Gavrushka
By the way, how many people do you normally have in a game?
Oh and I unzipped 1.2 and 1.21, I had forgotten that they were already on my computer. Unfortunately I still do not seem to be able to get all the servers. All I get are the activision UK and US servers, I do remember that I had some good games over the German server when I was in England. Well it is 11.30 (Thai time), and Sargas just ran out on me before I could even ask for a game. So I wil go back to ctp2 single player, fun, but not as much as playing real people.
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jpww
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quote:
Originally posted by Boney
...All I get are the activision UK and US servers, I do remember that I had some good games over the German server when I was in England... |
You may have a corrupt servers.dat file. I can forward you the servers.dat file that Swissy sent me a while ago. It works just fine. Just let me know if you are interested...
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blackice
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Canada where else...
Sep 2000
time: 00:14
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Good to see you JP :0)
File attached is the servers.dat i have noticed with a recent upgrade that the servers.dat sometimes does not upgrade.
Save this to a folder for the future.
 Attachment: servers.zip
This has been downloaded 3 time(s).
Last edited by blackice on 21-07-2001 at 03:00
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quinns
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*** Format For Reporting Completed Rated Internet Games ***
The game winner (only) will please use the following format when reporting completed games:
Fill in the data inside the {} marks.
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CTP INTERNET RATINGS GAME RESULT
Game Name: {name of game}
Participants: {player one (blue) Apolyton handle, player two (orange) Apolyton handle, ... etc.}
Order of Finish: {winner's Apolyton handle, second place handle, ... etc.}
Comments: {comments from the winner here (optional)}
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Boney
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Thailand
Jan 2001
time: 05:14
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Hi
Saturday sounds good to me, my wife has left me so time is also no problem. But maybe I weill have to mix a lot of coffee with the beer, as I am 6 hours ahead of most of you guys. As to the beheading, it will certainly make the beer go down smoothly. If I play ctp on wes wittakers medmod I usually play on a lower level. Ctp, normal with 1.2 1.21, I never play at less than deity, and I can usually manage to win. But I never use the cheats mentioned by the quinns, they make the game too easy. Even in multiplayer I have never used the cheats, and I for one never knew about them until the Quinns post. Anyway let me know the time and place and Saturday sounds okay for me.
Boney
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quinns
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I wish I could make it this Saturday, but I'm going to visit my in-laws this week end. Have a good match!
Gavrushka, report your results on this thread. Don't worry about clogging it up. If it gets too big, I will just create a new thread called CTP Internet Ratings (12-JUL-2001) for example. But, yes, please start a separate thread in order to discuss the specific game that you are starting. Reserve this thread for just the results and end game comments. Thanks.
Last edited by quinns on 13-07-2001 at 00:37
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02-07-2001 15:13
. We may wait for Swissy's and Slamp's response.
) so just post a time - lets try and get a four or five player going??
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