15-06-2001 05:48									#1
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HELP!!!! i was about 4/5 of the way through my scenario and now it crashes everytime i try to load the saved game file!!!
I had placed all the cities and done all the units technologies etc editted the flags and the people dont the terrain and all the Governments and more all i had to do was place the units and finnish the events file off and it would have been ready for playtesting. But now the f*cking thing wont let me load. Has anyone got any ideas about what could be causing it? This is the first scen i have been really intrested in and it bloody wont work!

for those with technical knowledge this is what the details thing says:
CIV2 caused an exception 03H in module KERNEL32.DLL at 0167:bff768a1.
Registers:
EAX=00000000 CS=0167 EIP=bff768a1 EFLGS=00200286
EBX=00000012 SS=016f ESP=0093d860 EBP=0093d974
ECX=c17658f0 DS=016f ESI=81735750 FS=0f17
EDX=bffc9490 ES=016f EDI=00000000 GS=0000
Bytes at CS:EIP:
c3 cc cc 55 8b ec 56 57 68 c0 94 fc bf e8 01 d9
Stack dump:
0058a3f1 00000000 81735750 00000012 ffffffff 74736f4d 63657220 20746e65 20534f44 6f727265 20203a72 00322020 34203a61 00302032 0093d8b4 bff7b77b

So if anyone knows what this is or who could think of anything please help me!

Just my sodding luck

	15-06-2001 15:36									#2
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I canīt say what exactly your problem is, but I had several chrashes due to:

- typos in the rules, or too much entries in the rules, e.g. when you cut/paste elements of other rules files, and paste more techs/units/improvements than allowed

- too big events file, when you use notepad or so and insert simply too many events

- using a labels.txt with not enough stringheap space, e.g. when you copied a labels file from an older civ version

Solution: such errors are hard to find, but you can try to run the scn without events, rules or labels, then check if it works, then move the first of these files again into the scn folder, run again, move the next file back if it still runs and so on...

Once you found out what file causes the error, use the standard civ file of that type and start to make changes (run the scn sometimes after the new changes to see if it still runs)

Hope this helps, but there maybe more reasons...

	15-06-2001 16:27									#3
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I`ve had this problem before Gary, and it`s probably down to one of the factors that BeBro mentioned. The best way around it is to do what I do:

1) Make a copy of all the text files you are using for the scenario.
2) Rename one original file at a time, i.e rename rules.txt to rules1.txt or something, and then see if the scenario loads.
3) If it doesn`t, rename the file back to what it originally was and repeat with another .txt file. Keep trying until you find the one causing the problem.
4) This is the fiddly part. You have to start over with a new copy of that file, copying and pasting all the info from the backup in small increments. That way, you can find out which part of the file is causing the problem.

	15-06-2001 23:19									#4
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If the problem turns out to be the events file, you can always use the debug command to fix it up. For the other files, there's no other way to determine what's wrong besides what BeBro and Paul suggested.

	16-06-2001 00:35									#5
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Thanx guys i have fixed it it was a problem in the rules file. it seems that when i was seperating out some of my advances ie not USSR/Iran/Iraq etc i used commers and the comp doesnt like that!!
But its been fixed now and will be available for playtesting soon