15-06-2001 08:38									#1
	Why not have a different ruler for each age Support Apolyton, buy Alpha Centauri

For example The French could have Joan of Arc in the Ancient times, Louis XIV in the Renissance times, Napoleon in the Industrial times, and Napoleon III in the modern times. These would be awesome

	15-06-2001 20:31									#2
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I agree. Unfortunately, it does not look like this is going to happen.

	15-06-2001 20:42									#3
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Yeah, I always thought it was stupid how like the Zulu's are still wearing loin cloths in 1999 or something. If not different leaders, at least have them change w/ the times...

	15-06-2001 20:46									#4
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It would be alot of heavy graphics, four animated rulers per civ.

What would be cool was if, after discovery of democracy, you are not guaranteed being the ruler. You have to please the people and win elections. If you lose an election, you may be out of the game, or have to comprimise with other party leaders of your civ.

	15-06-2001 20:55									#5
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quote: Originally posted by uncle_funk It would be alot of heavy graphics, four animated rulers per civ. What would be cool was if, after discovery of democracy, you are not guaranteed being the ruler. You have to please the people and win elections. If you lose an election, you may be out of the game, or have to comprimise with other party leaders of your civ.

Perhaps not out of the game but being unable to control some of your cities with a low popularity or a similar penalty.

	15-06-2001 21:03									#6
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quote: Perhaps not out of the game but being unable to control some of your cities with a low popularity or a similar penalty.

Or being degraded to like defense minister, just being able to control the military units. Fine to me.

	15-06-2001 21:08									#7
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let me reiterate my position. dubbya!

	15-06-2001 21:57									#8
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quote: Originally posted by dennis580 For example The French could have Joan of Arc in the Ancient times

Does 15th Century qualify as ancient?

	15-06-2001 22:44									#9
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Yea, ancient times. The Fifties!

	15-06-2001 23:22									#10
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No!!!!

I don't want then number of civs cut down to four.

	15-06-2001 23:45									#11
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quote: Originally posted by dennis580 For example The French could have Joan of Arc in the Ancient times, Louis XIV in the Renissance times, Napoleon in the Industrial times, and Napoleon III in the modern times. These would be awesome

Some of the civs (eg Egyptians, Babylonians) never made it to the renaissance, others were born in the industrial age (americans). Finding rulers for each age for every civilization is not possible unless one make up names.
But it would be cool if the leaders had different clothes in the different ages.

	16-06-2001 01:32									#12
	Re: Re: Why not have a different ruler for each age Support Apolyton, buy Alpha Centauri

quote: Originally posted by Gangerolf Some of the civs (eg Egyptians, Babylonians) never made it to the renaissance, others were born in the industrial age (americans). Finding rulers for each age for every civilization is not possible unless one make up names. But it would be cool if the leaders had different clothes in the different ages.

Well you could use Nassar for the modern Egyptian one, Ibn Saud for modern Babylonian, or something, but yeah, you'd run into a road block with Americans, and even Zulus, since they were only unified in like the 1800s or so

	17-06-2001 00:02									#13
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I actually suggested a similar idea, of having a random ruler chosen from a pool each age. that could show changes in politics and be the changes needed for different and interesting games, and rise and fall of civilizations.

if you care to search deeper in the pages of this forum it is there... I once gathered it all in a thread called : Rise and Fall of Civs + Firaxis Read.

	17-06-2001 04:57									#14
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Listen just pick the 4 best rulers for each civ the ruler doesn't necessarly have to live in the age they represent. I know Joan of Arc didn't live in Ancient times, but I just picked the 4 best Frecnh rulers and put them in order from thier date of birth.

	17-06-2001 07:05									#15
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But it only adds novelty-value to the game. It won't improve game play. So, frankly, don't waste the space!!

	17-06-2001 08:13									#16
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this is just too much for a civ GAME. if firaxis starts adding stuff like this, they'll never finish the important stuff (AI, interface, GAMEPLAY)

	19-06-2001 04:58									#17
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No it's not a novelty. This would add a lot to gameplay as each new ruler would have different attributes and charteristics. This would add a lot to gameplay.

	19-06-2001 09:36									#18
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even if firaxis made this functional in some way, it takes away from the time they can spend on everything else. i don't see how firaxis could make different personalities (4 or more new leader profiles for each civ) well without delaying the release of civ3. if different leaders are wanted that badly, maybe modmakers should do them instead. i would rather have one leader throughout, personally.

Last edited by Sabre2th on 19-06-2001 at 09:45

	19-06-2001 18:13									#19
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well ancient us ruler could be fred flintstone, i guess. than that yankee on king arthur's castle for medieval times. um...lemme see what is next....
of course, dubbya, 50 percent polution up, ever second military unit free

	19-06-2001 18:59									#20
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It's not like the end of the world if a civ has just one leader running around in a small bearskin. I don't really care actually.

And from what I've seen with the small roman guys face which change every row, what ur saying may just be implemented

And on the election thing... would certainly add a new dimension. But who uses democracy anyway
Let those poor people give me their tithes

	20-06-2001 15:46									#21
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How about they just change the name every few years. Pick a few names from their historical dominion. And then add numerals to their name. So perhaps you'd end up being George Washington the XXIV. Or tokugawa the V.

Simple. Easy. And a culture that doesn't have 3 named leaders doesn't desrve to be in civ3.