21-06-2001 20:33									#1
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When referring to a murdering mother:

quote: A very sad thing to read.... To bad it wasn't the Spink household...

Please ban the relevant poster for two weeks or I'll be reporting it to higher authorities.

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	21-06-2001 20:37									#2
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I wouldn't say it was a death threat, but a very ill thought out remark. The person who said it should promptly retract it and apologise.

	21-06-2001 20:44									#3
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And now:

quote: I'd like to [kill Dookie], with a shotgun

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	21-06-2001 21:24									#4
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Should have talked to a lawyer before making that first post Infatuation, (edited for sake of discretion). And as a tactical matter demanding that Mark G judge the relative merits of a hot blooded yet mostly mature ethnic Greek vs your character may be a serious error.

While constituting not a threat, Mr Poulos's comment regarding you does reflect a deep contempt for you on his part. He believes you to be a totally amoral and callous sociopath who cold bloodedly uses grievous tragedies for the purpose of fomenting discord, as well as you being a wastrel and self absorbed sybarite. I do suspect that sincerely believes the human race would be improved if you were to vanish.

Ah, the cruel part of my nature is now salivating in anticipation of the various fallouts of the conflict!

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	21-06-2001 21:27									#5
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While I don't condone threats against posters, I am sure that they are obviously not intended to be taken literally.

You often create very acrimonious and hateful atmospheres in other people's threads, Dookie.

I believe you do yourself a great disservice with this kind of behavior, as you are obviously a clever person and probably even harbor a sublimated kindness.

It is too bad that you often resort to the lowest common denominator and make very cheap shots at your peers here.
Frankly, you shouldn't be surprised that some do not take it very well. You get what you put out--maybe this is an indication of what people perceive to be your attitude toward them.

Very sad, considering your potential.

	21-06-2001 21:43									#6
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First... You are a troll. You post things to excite people, and then you seem surprised when people react as you want them too

Second... the first post you point out is just a response to your trolling... and is not direct, and can be seen as a joke. No worse than some of the stuff you post.

Third... higher authority? HUH? Do whatever you wish... but good luck.

HOWEVER...
The second post he made was far more direct, and shows a pattern. That pattern of posting will stop. For that reason, he has been restricted for 2 days. Feel free to report us to higher authority because we aren't bending over backwards to give him two weeks. He is getting what he deserved, and no more.

In the future, if you can't take some of the heated responses to your trolling, don't troll.

	21-06-2001 21:51									#7
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Fair enough, but I can't help that I have some controversial viewpoints. That doesn't make me a troll or evil, does it...

	21-06-2001 22:00									#8
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Don't play the semantic damsel in distress, Dookie.

You know very well that many of your posts are not based on your deep seeded and admirable trait of free thinking--they are based on your desire to poke and prod at people when they are vulnerable in order to elicit a strong and, in your mind, laughable response.

That's what you're getting...live with it.

You're the little boy crying wolf--people are not going to run to your aid when the wolves start circling.

I'm surprised you pointed out your secret identity in such an obvious way...that may well blow up in your face, eh?

	21-06-2001 22:02									#9
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quote: Originally posted by Ming Third... higher authority? HUH? Do whatever you wish... but good luck.

LOL, on two levels.

	21-06-2001 23:03									#10
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Stew, you cry like a little girl. Are you really woried about the threat or do you just want to run like a little tattletale to Mommy? Hoping that you can get somebody "punished".

You posted a thread saying that there had been a bomb explosion in a building in my hometown. I found that extremely poor taste. Especially because it was believeable. But you are all just full of fun and laughs, right? BTW: I did not ask for you to be punished. Although it's a good thing for you, you were not in arm's reach at the time.

Ever wonder why nobody likes you?

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	21-06-2001 23:34									#11
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Infatuation did not feel threatened nor even upset. It and this thread was just anotherjoke, troll, and (sucessful) attempt to stir up trouble. Look at what was involved in the supposedly threatening post, no one would take it seriously. And Infatuation would not likey have been at all upset a the insults there. It was just another act for the puspose of creating discord. he can play some of you guys like a violin.

	21-06-2001 23:49									#12
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Whether it was a troll or not is irrevelant. A simple insult directed at Infat's intelligence would have sufficed. There are rules about death threats and there is a precedent in punishment. A complete walk for cp would have sent the message that threats are acceptable.

	22-06-2001 00:29									#13
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quote: Originally posted by Infatuation Fair enough, but I can't help that I have some controversial viewpoints. That doesn't make me a troll or evil, does it...

You're not cool enough to be evil.
You're not bright enough to be a troll.
Mostly you're just anoying.

	22-06-2001 00:52									#14
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quote: Originally posted by Garth Vader Whether it was a troll or not is irrevelant. A simple insult directed at Infat's intelligence would have sufficed. There are rules about death threats and there is a precedent in punishment. A complete walk for cp would have sent the message that threats are acceptable.

quote:

quote: Originally posted by SuperSneak --- Exactly. Dookie...the day will come when somebody unloads on you. That will be a good day, trust me. ---- I'd like to, with a shotgun.

is a far cry from a death threat.

It's somewhere along the lines of:
I'M GONAA KILL YOU MING!!! WHY THE HELL DID YOU EAT MY CUPCAKE?

I think ming was overzeaolous and a bit too PC.
However, I don't really give a ****, and I know he doesn't either. =]



Now I'll agree Ming is justified in enforcing the rules, and if those rules happen to include don't joke about killing people, and don't use such phrases to express your irritation. (likely because somone else might not understand its a joke or that you're just pissed)
But if anyone seriously thinks Chris was even remotely honest about killing, they should rethink their position.

	22-06-2001 02:09									#15
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quote: Originally posted by Ted Now I'll agree Ming is justified in enforcing the rules, and if those rules happen to include don't joke about killing people, and don't use such phrases to express your irritation. (likely because somone else might not understand its a joke or that you're just pissed) But if anyone seriously thinks Chris was even remotely honest about killing, they should rethink their position.

I'm sure ONLY infatuation viewed it seriously (and only so he could troll )
But the real reason for the 2 day restriction was that Chris did it more than once.
Granted, neither was very serious, and both had the appropriate smiles attached, but,
it was going to stop... and a 2 day restiction seems to fit the "crime"

Oh... and Ted, I was laughing so hard at your "death threat" toward me, that I didn't take it very seriously So I don't think I will restrict you today

	22-06-2001 02:14									#16
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*Yawn*

Stew, you are jerk, and when people make jerk-like comments to you, you whine.

You are despicable, someone that likes to give it out but can't take it.

So, I'm glad Chris said what he said (even though he's a whiner too ).

	22-06-2001 03:51									#17
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This case (the murder in Texas) proves once again what I've been saying for a long time...you can't buy good psychiatric care in this country. The vast majority of cases of depression are managed by family practioners and internists such as myself. Though the medical societies and insurance companies who approve of this deny it, these generalists usually don't have the time to devote to psychiatric care and most don't have the skills to manage more serious cases either. Then again most psychiatrists trained in the US don't either. The problem is that we've become overly reliant on medication to treat the patient and we ignore the importance of communication. It's true that with respect to most types of mental illness "the talking cure" is pretty useless. Putting someone on the couch and having them free associate or recount their childhood may even be counterproductive, but you have to talk to someone to determine if there illness is well controlled or if they're suicidal. Mentally ill people often have a great deal of denial, so the process of getting to know them well enough to assesss them is very time consuming. A GP's office is not a good place to do this, there are too many distractions.
There is a relative deficiency in numbers of psychiatrists, but I'm not sure that it matters. Most of the psychiatirists that I've worked with recently seem to be more interested in administrative duties and not very sharp with regards to assessment skills. I've sent overtly suicidal patients to see some of these guys in the ER only to have them bounce right out with a handful of pills. Sorry, but in my handbook suicidal ideation is an automatic hospital admission.

OTOH do we know that this woman was currently depressed at the time she killed the children? I didn't interview her, so I don't know whether she was currently depressed or just pissed off at her kids.

	22-06-2001 05:05									#18
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Blazing little blue smurf d!cks!, Strangelove, why the flarp inject reality into a good cyber pissing match. You really turned a fun thread into something boring. As if we need your to tell us that poor people (and much of the middle class) do not get excellent psychiatric care.

	22-06-2001 05:46									#19
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Too bad I had to miss Dookie running to mommy. You remind me of a kid I knew in school once. He was always getting the **** kicked out of him for one reason or another. He never figured out that his smart mouth got him into trouble. He was always running and telling and would get it even worse after that. Until one day people just started ingoring him. People are still not paying attention to him 7 years later. If you can't take a little abuse then stop being a jerk.

Sorry for calling you mommy, Ming.

	22-06-2001 05:56									#20
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Everyone:

(Edit: Taking tradition into consideration.)

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	22-06-2001 06:53									#21
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Yes, and Yes... I brought this up, but it seems the Administrators don't care... That's what I get from it.

	22-06-2001 07:04									#22
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Pfffrp, like we didn't all already know that. I still wanna know who YYYH is *although I have a suspicion*

	22-06-2001 07:08									#23
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Gibsie, daaarhling please share your gossip, by pm if neccesary on YYYH.

	22-06-2001 07:20									#24
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Nah... it's based upon my own mental observations, so it's obviously completely incorrect. I don't want to embaress myself

	22-06-2001 14:16									#25
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quote: Originally posted by Gibsie Pfffrp, like we didn't all already know that. I still wanna know who YYYH is *although I have a suspicion*

I actually know, but this is classified information at this time

I dunno, I'm not getting involved in this pissing match. Stay clear

	22-06-2001 15:22									#26
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These are not 'death threats'! It is certainly not illegal to want someone dead.

Grow up!

	22-06-2001 17:46									#27
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If someone makes a death threat against me I will laugh.

	22-06-2001 18:10									#28
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Yes, I know you know Provost... if I were to think he were a historical character, would I be correct?

And Horsey, what if someone threatended to inject some life into you instead?

	22-06-2001 19:03									#29
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quote: Originally posted by Gibsie Nah... it's based upon my own mental observations, so it's obviously completely incorrect. I don't want to embaress myself

You seem to get vast quantities of what you do not want.

	22-06-2001 19:16									#30
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quote: Originally posted by Gibsie Yes, I know you know Provost... if I were to think he were a historical character, would I be correct?

Nope. This is, of course, unless the poster I have been informed of (you won't have heard of him, apparently YYYH rarely visits this place now anyway) is just a red herring