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SCDARS is offline SCDARS
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Sep 1999
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I read right here about OCC and tried my very first game (diety/ raging hordes/ 7 civs). Now I see I wasted some time by not sticking enough to the main goal, for example building wonders to avoid that any other civ might take benefit from it.
Anyway I want to thank the one who invented OCC, it's really engaging and I linke those short turns...

1. Are there any official rules or suggestions? For instance, which map level do you recommend?

2. I'm in 1952 now have 5 SS-structurals yet, being favoured by the fusion power bonus.
Assuming a city production of 80 and enough cash to rush-build at least some of the components, what would be the quickest way to AC? Is it better to max. out the amount of SS-Components or what is the optimum? You should also take into account that each component (with its required structurals) more will cost minimum 3 turns (perhaps even more) to build...

3. Is it really needed to make the other tribes allies? I think this could det me involved into wars I don't need...

4. Some idea that came to my mind (I guess someone has already tested it out, though): Have you ever resticted yourself only to build caravans/ freights and settlers/engineers? I think it should be quite challenging not to use martial law at the beginning - and likewise letting your city open for opponents...
You optionally could allow yourself some diplos (spies seem too mighty, though)

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Jul 1999
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Jun 2000
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Yes, Smash has pointed to the essential site for the ground rules and strategy. It's more helpful to play the comparisons given there as you can compare your results with others who have played before. Once you've got an idea of the strategy your current questions will be put into a more meaningful context.

For now, specifically in answer to your Question 2: The idea is that you would have built extra caravans/freight so that after the Apollo Program, you would ideally still have 9 or more, and enough gold in the coffers and net income to ensure that you can build components and modules in one turn! It is an interesting exercise to do some calculations based on various combinations of caravans to spare vs amount of gold in the coffers and amount of net income per turn. It works particularly well on a spreadsheet.

Mao is offline Mao
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About #3, I think the point of making everyone else allies is so that you are at peace. If you are in conflicting alliances, simply choose the larger power.

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Dec 1999
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One other point about #3. If you're playing the MGE version, forget about kissyfacing with the other tribes. In fact, it's quite the opposite. Once you've established your three trade routes, you almost have to avoid all contact. Either that or make sure you never have so much money that they'll destroy you emotionally when they ask for 1000 gold out of your 1040 on hand.

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Tom DeMille is offline Tom DeMille
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Jan 2000
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Alliances offer several benefits:

1) If you are allied with someone, you are not at war with them. This means no production wasted on those pesky military units. You can usually make alliances with nearby neighbours if you discover them early enough. Yuo will often not be able to ally with 1 or 2 distant AIs, but they will be too far away to threaten you.

2) An alliance gives you a partial embassy - discoveries made by your allies are announced, giving you the opportunity to trade for them (often it will be a tech you are currently researching if you have been busy gifting most of your tech).

3) You can confidently move your caravans around an allies territory without worrying about them being destroyed.

4) You can ask your allies for gifts.

All in all, an ally is a great thing to have

Paul is offline Paul
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Mar 1999
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5) An ally's units can't remove your people from the squares they're working on.

Steve Clark is offline Steve Clark
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Alliances are really good to have just to see how mad they get after you have taken advantaged of them before they get clobbered.

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