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Alexander's Horse is offline Alexander's Horse
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No cities are built right on top of mountain peaks. Cities in mountainous regions are built in valleys - even Katmandu.

So why should people be able to do this in Civ III?

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I can say I'm surprised you didn't post this thread before. However, I think you won't smash the record of replies the other one got.

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Do we care

Besides, the lack of food is the real reason....like the civ.

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So if you can't build on a city on the mountain how could you move on it? Would you have to have rock climbing units? What you have to understand is that the mountain tile doesn't just represent one mountain, it represents multiple mountains. Meaning that there would be pathways between the mountains. The city is built on the pathways not the actual mountain and the units move between the pathways.

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*sigh*

It's a bloody big mountain range, so a city can be built anywhere in there, not just on the top of the highest peak.

Alexander's Horse is offline Alexander's Horse
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Another night on the graveyard shift there UR?

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Mar 2000
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There's no need to add extra rules when the disincentive to establishing a mountain city is its growth potential.

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WOW! everyone on this thread seems really lively!

dont you think people would be more like "lets settle in this nice mountain valley" than " ok boys were gona climb everest today!" "why?" "becouse we were assigned to build a library"

rah is offline rah
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Geeze, running out of trolls or something AH?

What is this, Second or Third time on this one?

And quess what, It sounds just as stupid this time around.




RAH

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Geeze, running out of trolls or something AH?

What is this, Second or Third time on this one?

And quess what, It sounds just as stupid this time around.




RAH


Perhaps we could come up with a list of pre done topics and ming could set up another area to redue them. Like Civ3 suggestions in review.

Colon is offline Colon
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I'm supporting you Horsie, we can't have this nonsense.

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Again, in Civ 2, with a huge map supposedly representing an earth sized planet the tiles are about 200 miles across, so a mountain tile represents highly folded terrain with all its peaks and valleys. The question that might be asked is what sort of mountains are represented by the mountain terrain in Civ. Does it only represent the most rugged terrain like the Andes or the major chains defining the Himalayan area? Does it also represent the lesser mountains like the Appalachains and the Balkan ranges, or would these be more appropriately represented by hills? There are areas in China that are very rugged yet have a population density to rival that of europe's most densely populated urban areas. In fact I've often thought that there should have been an allowance to allow irrigation of mountains. Then again maybe Civ needs two types of mountains.

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When a tile contains mountain terrain, I don't just think of it in terms of its altitude; I think it also has a lot to do with the quality of the terrain, i.e.: is the ground dirt, or is it rocks?

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When a tile contains mountain terrain, I don't just think of it in terms of its altitude; I think it also has a lot to do with the quality of the terrain, i.e.: is the ground dirt, or is it rocks?


Yes now we are on the right tract, we can have:
brown mountian to signify soil terrain
silver mountains to signify rock terrain
black mountians to signify valcanic terrian
and red mountians to signify lots of rose bushes

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Marquis de Sodaq is offline Marquis de Sodaq
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Ever heard of MACHU PICCHU, Horse? Right smack on top...

Besides, if a civ map tile is many miles across, there'd be enough valleys there, should you choose to split hairs.

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Ever heard of MACHU PICCHU, Horse? Right smack on top...


How about inhabited cities, not tourist traps. Besides, I've read archeological evidence exists that Manch Picchu predates the Incans, so they were really just squaters in an established settlement, not builder of a mountaintop city.

You're right though, 200mile tiles would have plenty of valleys for cities to be founded in, not just pure mountain peaks

Quantum is offline Quantum
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What about Lhasa, Tibet? It is not on a peak, but it is certainly in mountainous terrain. There are so many mountains around it that it would certainly be in a "mountain square" in Civ. And it is inhabited!

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I don't think Machu picchu is a good example of a city situated at a mountain top. Not that's not located at one, just that it's only 13 square kilometres large, not even the size of a half descent village.

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Yes, but AH- do you realize that one mountain in Civ II represented 100 miles of mountains, and in some of those miles there may have been valleys- thus allowing the building of cities in the mountains.

I do agree however that cities built in the mountains should grow very slowly...

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Why should I even bother explaining why mountain cities are valid in the context of a Civ game, when the answers are so plainly obvious?

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Very helpful, Anunikoba. Spam, spam, spammity spam. The fact that you couldn't have a settler unit and grow at the same time when you'd built your city on a mountain was sufficient deterrent for me.

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WOW! everyone on this thread seems really lively!

dont you think people would be more like "lets settle in this nice mountain valley" than " ok boys were gona climb everest today!" "why?" "becouse we were assigned to build a library"


What?

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I think he means cities are more likely to be founded in a valley than on a mountaintop, a fact which is as true as it is irrelevant, for the reasons given above.

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