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Alexander's Horse is offline Alexander's Horse
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Oh go and take a cold shower.

Some of you people need little excuse to get sanctimonious and judgemental.

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AH, rape usually is judged...

Alexander's Horse is offline Alexander's Horse
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AH, rape usually is judged...


Yes - my point precisely. And its judged by a court with all the facts - not by what we would call in Australia a bunch of "bush lawyers".

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Agreed, a court, jury, all that. However all that is to determine guilt, yes? In this case from what I can see the individual has admitted his guilt. In fact, he's even judged himself a "pig". So, since the verdict is in, why not judge him and his crime? Screw em, he's a rapist by his own admittion. These guys want to discuss how bad the guy is and what a nasty thing it was to do, good.

They're right...

Chris 62 is offline Chris 62
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Some of you people need little excuse to get sanctimonious and judgemental.


I don't agree here. most of the drival the OT morons spout I just ignore, for it is truly worthless.

The moron in question was making a confession, and asking absolution. I went to easy on him.

The other people I took to task have the sensetivity of a nazi, for the most part.

They are the real sanctimonious jerks, who can go on adnausium 150-200-300 posts about Civnation, Bush, spyplanes, and other such trivialities, but confront them with rape, child abuse, and degredation of women, and they start making lewd jokes, or try to blow it off as "just a troll", or call any who object "whiners'.

They are really moral cowards, and in their fear, they resort to name calling, and congratulate themselves that they all agree, so the disenter is obviously wrong.

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Yes - my point precisely. And its judged by a court with all the facts - not by what we would call in Australia a bunch of "bush lawyers".
I only proceeded on what the poster in question said.
This line of argument is not valid.
He's says he's guilty, but we say nothing untill a trial?
You might want to rethink that one.

My only point in all this is that some people just don't care about women, and their answers prove it.

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chris,
I hope you're not referring to me with that last post.

Strateford IS a troll. He is NOT REAL.

My position on rape, women, etc. is, in this instance is entirely irrelevant.

Why? Simply because I choose NOT to be provoked by some sick troll. Notice that the culprit hasn't appeared again? If you want to know who it is, pm me and I'll happily let you know. It should be obvious--the man practically bragged about it. I can't believe no one else except me noticed it.

Exile

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How come you're so sure about this Exile?

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Why don't you just post the name and your evidence. It's OK to post fake rapes, but not OK to identify the person? C'mon!!

Why do you want to keep the troll's secret?

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Yes - my point precisely. And its judged by a court with all the facts - not by what we would call in Australia a bunch of "bush lawyers".

Interestingly, perhaps, in the UK it might be called a Kangaroo Court.
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Point of Information: in this context, what precisely is a troll?

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Interestingly, perhaps, in the UK it might be called a Kangaroo Court.
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Point of Information: in this context, what precisely is a troll?


I think a Troll is a person or a post who's main intent is to create fierce reactions from the other posters. The most succesful «trolls» are those that have some aspects of truth in them and they can appear not to actually be «trolls».

To illustrate: if I say:

«Who do the brits think they are to instruct us on anything about human rights? Have they forgotten the Faklants?»

This is a troll. Based on some aspects of truth but definitely written to irratate and provoke a fierce responce. (Actually my whole post is a troll )




Do the Australians let kangaroos in their courts?

Provost Harrison is offline Provost Harrison
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I don't agree here. most of the drival the OT morons spout I just ignore, for it is truly worthless.

The moron in question was making a confession, and asking absolution. I went to easy on him.

The other people I took to task have the sensetivity of a nazi, for the most part.

They are the real sanctimonious jerks, who can go on adnausium 150-200-300 posts about Civnation, Bush, spyplanes, and other such trivialities, but confront them with rape, child abuse, and degredation of women, and they start making lewd jokes, or try to blow it off as "just a troll", or call any who object "whiners'.

They are really moral cowards, and in their fear, they resort to name calling, and congratulate themselves that they all agree, so the disenter is obviously wrong.

I only proceeded on what the poster in question said.
This line of argument is not valid.
He's says he's guilty, but we say nothing untill a trial?
You might want to rethink that one.

My only point in all this is that some people just don't care about women, and their answers prove it.


Simple fact is that we know absolutely nothing except for what he posted in the OT thread. What do you expect us to do? He is anonymous, it is just a troll for all we know. He knows if he came back he would more than likely be ostracised. But there is nothing we can do!

Rimmer is offline Rimmer
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Hey, maybe it's Rimmer!!


Shut up

Winston is offline Winston
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Sorry, mate.

drake is offline drake
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geez, i should visit this forum more often. Since everything I want to say has already been said by several others, I wont repeat it.

Imran Siddiqui is offline Imran Siddiqui

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And just what "whining" would that be, Imran, that I expect them to do there jobs?
Stop trying to be such a company suckup, they gave you the title.


quote:
Yoy, and the site managers, basiccally don't give a damn about women, or their rights


*yawn*

I think AH said it best:

quote:
Some of you people need little excuse to get sanctimonious and judgemental.


Now go come up with another cause. First you were on the ramparts about the 'speed' of the site and now you've got your new pet cause. This one is getting too old, perhaps you should critisize Firaxis for Civ3, that should keep you busy..

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All this thread really shows are the peculiar hang ups of Americans about sex.


Really. You have a daughter I could have a wee taste of, Horse?
Surely you won't object to a small sample?

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The stages of life.

Children
Recognize Authority and obey. You don't know any better.
Which makes you feel like a kid.

Teen
Recognize that Authority might not be all knowing by pointing out and argueing all trivial inconsistencies or mistakes.
Which makes you feel superior.

Young Adult
Get off your ass and try to fix those inconsistencies or mistakes to make a perfect world. Facts are immaterial since you already know everything.
Which makes you feel like a hero.

Adult
Realize that nothing is perfect and just taking accountabilities for your actions and try to influence others similarly. Try to get all the facts before you leap. Don't prejudge. Just do the best you can.
Which makes you feel like an adult.

Senior
Forget everything and just play golf.
Which just makes you feel like an old man.


RAH
Working on being the best damn senior.

Chris 62 is offline Chris 62
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Now go come up with another cause. First you were on the ramparts about the 'speed' of the site and now you've got your new pet cause. This one is getting too old, perhaps you should critisize Firaxis for Civ3, that should keep you busy..

Grow the F*ck up, Imran.
You should change your handle to Imran "Company kiss ass and excuse maker" Siddiqui.

The site was running slow as hell, and everyone knew it.

And if you can't understand why Rape and child abuse, real or implied, must be confronted and destroyed, then you have some serious moral issues you really need to address.

Imran Siddiqui is offline Imran Siddiqui

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Once again:

*yawn*

You are really getting tired...

Caligastia is offline Caligastia
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Dont mind imran Chris, hes just a naive young lad flushed with a power trip...

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Imran, you can't just take issues people care about and put them in your stupid recycle bin on your computer and say "ok, I'm done with this" therefore everyone else should be too. When people give a crap about something, they don't just "let it go" or take a cold shower or some other dumb suggestion. Taking a serious situation and making light of it only shows how truly out of it you are.

Why do things need to happen to people before they pay any attention? Some people obviously don't know what empathy is.

"Imran "Company kiss ass and excuse maker" Siddiqui"

Hey, thats got a nice ring to it

Chris 62 is offline Chris 62
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Simple fact is that we know absolutely nothing except for what he posted in the OT thread. What do you expect us to do? He is anonymous, it is just a troll for all we know. He knows if he came back he would more than likely be ostracised. But there is nothing we can do!


Ah, but you see what I was driving at.

What I expect is meaningless, I have, nor desire, any control over other posters.

What I hope for, and as usaul, was that people would see that some things should not be tolerated. That's why I am so harsh with the "company guy", and his pat answers.

I also wanted to show, and I believe did show, how damn foolish a lot of people here are, when they get all rilied up over nothing, but then show themselves to be chauvanstic, insesetive clods, then fumble about with comments about "whining", and complaining, and feel smug in the knowledge that others also don't really give a rat's ass about this either.

I really don't care about most of the issues discussed in the OT, even the religous ones, because I won't be swayed by the usual arguments, I heard em all.

But violence towards women, real, implied, as a troll, as a joke, are NOT ACCEPTABLE to me, and I'll be damned if I sit back and say, "well, they were only kidding".
And make no mistake, Rape is violence, not sex, it's about domination.
As a family man, I worry about my Lady every time I can't be with her, cause some sick bastard might decide this is the day he's gonna get some, and I won't be there to stop it. And she and I, and our lives will never be the same.
By making light of the subject, one person, maybe just one, will get the idea that maybe raping someone isn't such a bad idea, and to me, that's one to many.

So to sum up, it's just to bad that some people don't want to hear it.

To f*cking bad. For them.

Chris 62 is offline Chris 62
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Once again:

*yawn*

You are really getting tired...
Only of your silly and pedantic responces.

Can't come up with anything better then *yawn* ?

No, let me guess, you will say I'm whining again, or that it's my "cause", or that I am "tired".

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I want Imran Siddiqui's sister, and the Horse's daughter, both at the same time. Par-ty.

Talk about needing a cold shower, yeah buddy.

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I also wanted to show, and I believe did show, how damn foolish a lot of people here are, when they get all rilied up over nothing, but then show themselves to be chauvanstic, insesetive clods, then fumble about with comments about "whining", and complaining, and feel smug in the knowledge that others also don't really give a rat's ass about this either.


No, your whining and complaining is saying the mods should have closed it while neglecting to send a complaint email. THAT is whining.

It is the same as your 'crusade' against the 'slow' site. You are a whiner. Accept it and go on.

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No, your whining and complaining is saying the mods should have closed it while neglecting to send a complaint email. THAT is whining.

Once and always, the "company man". Are they paying you to post this?

quote:
It is the same as your 'crusade' against the 'slow' site. You are a whiner. Accept it and go on.

Didn't take you long to fulfill my prediction, did it?

Imran Siddiqui is offline Imran Siddiqui

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Didn't need to really say it, though. Everyone on this site knows that you happen to be an insufferable whiner.

And yes, when I happen to post the truth, that perhaps YOU ****ed up, I'm the 'company man'. ::shrug:: Call me whatever you wish. Simply because I'm pointing out the facts of your negligence in the matter and you want to deflect blame. And yeah, I sometimes like sticking up for my friends, maybe you should try it?

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-Imran
"Everyone" is not the case as it does not include me. Chris rarely speaks out on this site and I think it is ridiculous that you call him a whiner. Who was the one whining to the mods when he lost his newseditor title eh? eh?

Keep masterbating over your title if thats what makes you happy, but dont get all high and mighty about correct procedure for complaints. The rape thing is obviously unacceptable and the fact that you attack the person who denounces it shows your immaturity.

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Didn't need to really say it, though. Everyone on this site knows that you happen to be an insufferable whiner.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

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And yes, when I happen to post the truth, that perhaps YOU ****ed up, I'm the 'company man'. ::shrug:: Call me whatever you wish. Simply because I'm pointing out the facts of your negligence in the matter and you want to deflect blame. And yeah, I sometimes like sticking up for my friends, maybe you should try it?

You have the wrong avatar, it should be Clinton.

That was one of the silliest spin-doctoring attempts of all time!

The adventers of "company man" continue!

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