05-07-2001 03:03									#1
	Scenarios? Got spare money?

erm, does any one have a WW2 (on eupropean map and another on international map) scenario and any other tot scenarios?

All the ones i convert have pics missing eg, the picture for the city isn't there, but the flag and name are etc.

come on, there must be some people that made some easy to use scernarios.

	05-07-2001 03:13									#2
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Yes, in fact we just had a contest, with four excellent entries, based on the theme "Dracula." The thread is here:
http://apolyton.net/forums/showthre...&threadid=21656 And there are a number of scenarios available on the "Cradle of Civilization," http://civ.cx a site dedicated to ToT.

	05-07-2001 03:25									#3
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based on dracula? Like the movie with Keanu reeves

as for the crade of civ... the WW2 scenario there looks to complicated to set up, more so, to complicated for my dopehead brain of an essex bimbo :rolleyes

	05-07-2001 04:01									#4
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i have 5 scenarios for ToT (1 WW2 world map) and soon
i'll finish to convert (thanks Civconverter) "Ameriques"
Eyn's World

heu... they're in french

	05-07-2001 04:10									#5
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MERDE! Je ne compompas la francais!!!!

	06-07-2001 01:46									#6
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Ameriques ! ToT version now available

try it... maybe u can like them even in french !

	06-07-2001 01:48									#7
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I would love them in any languange

but the fact i cant read french makes it impossible (nearly) for me to know what is waht..... quite an important factor in day to day life

	10-07-2001 21:52									#8
	Re: Scenarios? Avatar Enlargement: We've got the solution

quote: Originally posted by The Andy-Man erm, does any one have a WW2 (on eupropean map and another on international map) scenario and any other tot scenarios? All the ones i convert have pics missing eg, the picture for the city isn't there, but the flag and name are etc. come on, there must be some people that made some easy to use scernarios.

Have you tried "the great game"? Or ian thompson's "Lord of the rings"?

LOTM

	10-07-2001 21:58									#9
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quote: Originally posted by The Andy-Man erm, does any one have a WW2 (on eupropean map and another on international map) scenario and any other tot scenarios? All the ones i convert have pics missing eg, the picture for the city isn't there, but the flag and name are etc. come on, there must be some people that made some easy to use scernarios.

Im confused - you say convert - are you talking about the TOT ww2 scen (Europe in Flames, IIRC) found in cradle, or conversion of an FW/MGE scen using Angelo Scotto's conversion utility - if the former you dont need to convert - of the latter you may need advice on using the conversion utility (it took me a little while to get the knack)

LOTM

	10-07-2001 22:18									#10
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scottos thing is where biezibub farts in my face :P

I got europe in flames to work now, but it is to pre defined. you have limited controll over the events. you just do what waas done.


With Scottos thing I can convert a scenario that uses no extra/different units etc. Bassically, i can get a scenario which is just a scenario to work. But if it has specialised units (eg, WW2europe, the 'hell' ww1 scen), i get the problem that the units dont show up when i play the game, eg, a pikeman represents a german panzer division!!!!!!

This gets a little annoting etc etc. I have tried many things, (i have no .spr's), like replacing the TOT units file with the one from the scenario, butthis just screws up my game

Stupid microprse, they could have made old scens compatible.

	11-07-2001 00:02									#11
	hmmm Inflate your Upload Space

i use Civconverter 1.4 to convert my FW scenario to ToT !
my FW have extra units and i haven't this "bug" ! no unit is missing. If u talk about scenarios with more than 1 units.gif (multi-event scenarios) just use civconverter with each *.bmp/*.scn/rules.txt...

	11-07-2001 00:09									#12
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yeah, but the scenarios i have problems with come with a .gif file

and most of the stuff i convert is cic or older stuff. (Only the greek scenario thing on FW was anygood)

	11-07-2001 00:49									#13
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quote: Originally posted by The Andy-Man yeah, but the scenarios i have problems with come with a .gif file

So save the .gifs as .bmp!

	11-07-2001 01:02									#14
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i may have the intelleigence of whale omlett, but i did try that.
result:

funny lines (i coverted in File manager) and unseeabnle images

	11-07-2001 02:14									#15
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ToT can read the .gif files.

	11-07-2001 02:28									#16
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Are you saving gifs as 24-bit bmp, don't you?

you just have to open your image with Microsoft Paint (for example) and select "save As..." from File menu.
Then you have to select 24-bit bmp as file type.

CivConverter works well with pre-FW scenarios, are FW scenarios which sometimes create problems (first turn bug etc..)

greetings,
Angelo

	11-07-2001 03:12									#17
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that was a little above me. but i have never tried saving a gif as a bmp...

also, i know that tot can use gif's, but i dont know where to put them without replacing the main game gifs, this therefore screws up the whole thing.

	11-07-2001 03:18									#18
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they go in the scenario directory but you have to disable the .spr and .bmp files in 'orginal' first because ToT tries to use them in this order: .spr, .bmp, .gif

If that doesnt work then i dont know how to do it because that works for me.

	11-07-2001 03:33									#19
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tried it just now, result:

a totally screwed up version of civ2, (the menus have lost the grey bit etc etc), and the secn still dont work

	11-07-2001 03:37									#20
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which gif files are you replacing?

anyway, it sounds like the gifs are not civ-2 compatible if they are messing up the graphics.

	11-07-2001 03:42									#21
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i would have thought that files that came with a civ2 scen, with gifs that depict civ2 units, would be a civ 2 compatibnle thingy.

gifs i have trouples with, ALL except title.

	11-07-2001 03:47									#22
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hmm...well i have only tested units, terrainx and city.gif with scenarios.

1> Are the terrain.gif files in the 2+2 (old style) or 3+2 (TOT style) because ToT requires 3 terrain tiles + 2 special tiles whereas the older games use 2 terrain tiles + 2 special tiles.

2> Does Units.gif contain all of the required unit slots because ToT has all of the ones up to the 'extra air' and then an extra 26.

Other than that, i dont know.

	11-07-2001 03:48									#23
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somehopw i get the feeling, that it may be easier for me to just send some one the scens i want to wrok, and see if the can get them to work, and then thwey send me back the working one so i have a working thing to see if it is just me.

	11-07-2001 03:52									#24
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zip one and email it to me. if i can get it to work, i will send it back.

email me here

	11-07-2001 04:07									#25
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its on its way, thx

	11-07-2001 04:22									#26
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stupid e-mail thign returned it. i will send again

	11-07-2001 04:33									#27
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got the file, checking it now

	11-07-2001 05:13									#28
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The error seems to be in civ convertor. Even if i just use the converted .scn file and a 'clean' install of the original files, the scenario crashes as soon as it loads.

	11-07-2001 05:32									#29
	Got spare money?

i have actually got it to work!!!
I think i will pay more attention to what is ritte, you have to savwe the gif as bmp, AND save the bmp as a 24 bit (i forgot this part).


I just have one problem left, my PC is manky manky manky, and so, whenever i goto save as, or open, my computer tends to freeze - it was fluke i got the ww2 one to work. stupid ,anky pc. They shouldn't have burnt my pc instead of witches grrrr.

	11-07-2001 20:37									#30
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quote: Originally posted by The Andy-Man i have actually got it to work!!! I think i will pay more attention to what is ritte, you have to savwe the gif as bmp, AND save the bmp as a 24 bit (i forgot this part). I just have one problem left, my PC is manky manky manky, and so, whenever i goto save as, or open, my computer tends to freeze - it was fluke i got the ww2 one to work. stupid ,anky pc. They shouldn't have burnt my pc instead of witches grrrr.

yup, thats the trick. go to paint program, open the gifs, save as *24 bit* bmp and it works just fine. DO it enough times and its second nature.

your PC freezes when you do a save as in paint? that IS a problem

LOTM