14-07-2001 18:10									#31
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quote: Originally posted by Deity Dude The game in question was 2x1x King. 2 humans and 3 ai's (I believe - i cant tell this from the save). I was American and started with pottery as non-host. I have the save if anyone is interested. I started from the beginning (i.e. no hot-join). Slowwhand was Roman host and started with no techs. In addition, I started with an extra settler also.

I must have caught your memory loss, because I don't remember if there were AI or not.

One other thing, I know I've read that initial Settler popping hut would not yield city.
Wrong.
In this very game I hit hut, and an advanced civ was inside.
ON river.

	14-07-2001 22:12									#32
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Your initial land and then the surrounding terrain are the biggest pieces of luck in the game. I am not one for premade maps.... but every game someone gets screwed. Bad huts you can recover from but bad terrain is much much harder, especially if you have no trade, your virtually left trying to punch your way through another civ, and if you dont' have vastly superior tech as Smash stated earlier the odds are with the defender.