13-10-2000 07:22									#1
	Playing SOC as OCC Enter the AD-FREE zone

I have searched the 19 pages of the current threads for the Space Odyssey Challenge (SOC) but can't find it! So I'm starting this thread to post my log. If a sufficient number play it as OCC (in addition to the 3 so far) it would be worthwhile having a comparison table.

2.42 Deity

AC: 1756

Monarchy: -1450
Republic: -625
Democracy: 300

Colossus: -1900
Copernicus: -300
Shakespeare: -75
Newton: 380
Darwin: 940
Apollo: 1520

Trade routes: -700, -675, -650

Size 12: -425
Size 21: 680

Trade: -2400
Construction: -725
Sanitation: 50
Refrigeration: 720
Automobile: 1040
Computers: 1260
Space Flight: 1510


4000 BC hut=50
3950 BC hut=chariots
3900 BC hut=horseman
3850 BC Rome founded
3650 BC hut=chariot (supported)
3550 BC hut=50
3450 BC hut=50
3350 BC Bronze Working hut=currency Babylonians: peace exchange Ceremonial & Alphabet
3200 BC hut=25
3000 BC hut=writing
2950 BC Spanish: peace + 50 tribute
2800 BC Vikings: peace +tribute of Warrior Code
2750 BC Vikings: exchange Code of Laws
2650 BC Spanish exchange Pottery hut=50
2550 BC Spanish: alliance + 25
2450 BC hut=barb
2400 BC Hut=Trade
2300 BC English: peace exchange Masonry
2250 BC Spanish: 25
2100 BC Vikings: 25
2050 BC English: Pottery for alliance no gift
1950 BC Hut=50
1900 BC Colossus Spanish: 25
1500 BC Monarchy revolution English: exchange Wheel + 25 Vikings: exchange Mapmaking Alliance Spanish exchange Construction
1450 BC Govt. Monarchy Library Babylonians: exchange Mysticism + 100 English: gift of Horseback Riding
1350 BC Spanish: 50 Babylonians & English: sharemaps - shows Chinese warrior NE of Upsalla
1300 BC Marketplace
1250 BC English: 50
1150 BC Dye caravan built BarbLeader=150 Babylonians: 50
1100 BC Copper caravan built Vikings: 100
1050 BC Gold caravan built Spanish: 50
975 BC Temple
950 BC hut=50 Vikings: 50
900 BC Spanish: 100 Babylonians: 50
850 BC Vikings: 100
800 BC English: 50
750 BC Spanish: 50
700 BC Dye to Babylon (demanded)=144
675 BC Republic revolution Copper to Babylon (demanded)=144 Start WLTCD Spanish: gift of Iron Working
650 BC Gold to Babylon (not demanded)=64
625 BC Govt. Republic Chinese: Republic & Ironworking for Alliance + 50
600 BC Silver caravan built Vikings: 25 Disband Warrior
550 BC Vikings: 25 English: 50
500 BC Mathematics Vikings: 25
475 BC Spanish: 50
450 BC Hut=Horseman
425 BC Size=12 End WLTCD Vikings: 50 Spanish: 25
375 BC Chinese: 50
350 BC Astronomy
325 BC Spanish: 25
300 BC Copernicus Spanish: 50
275 BC Vikings: 50
250 BC Hut=chariot
225 BC Philosophy get Medicine Beads Caravan built
200 BC English: 50
175 BC Silver to Madrid (demanded)=320 Babylonians: exchange Seafaring
150 BC Engineering
125 BC Hut=horse
75 BC Shakespeare Vikings: 50 English: 50
50 BC Sanitation
25 BC Spanish: 50 Chinese: 25

[b]1AD[bI] Vikings: 50 English: 50
20 Sewer System Start WLTCD
40 University Chinese: 25 Spanish: 50
60 Vikings: 50 Chinese: 25
80 sell Colosseum
120 Banking built University
BarbLeader=150 Disband supported Chariot Spanish: 100 Chinese: 25
140 Bank
160 English: 50
180 Theory of Gravity Chinese: 50
200 Chinese: 50
220 Chinese: 50
280 English: 50
300 Democracy revolution Govt. Democracy
Spanish: exchange Navigation Vikings: 50
320 Chinese: 50 Vikings: 50
340 Silver to Toledo (demanded)=275
360 Economics Pop=20 hunger stop WLTPD
Spanish: 25 Vikings: cancel alliance
380 Isaac Newtons Spanish: 25
400 Chemistry
420 Stock Exchange Spanish: 25
440 Gunpowder
480 Explosives English: 50 Chinese: 100
520 Physics Spanish: 50 Chinese gifts Bridge Building
540 Disband Warrior
560 English: 50
580 Magnetism Beads to Shanghai (not demanded)=135
620 Metallurgy Spanish: 100 Start WLTPD
660 English: 50
680 Electricity Size=21 Stop WLTPD Chinese: 50
720 Refrigeration
740 Supermarket
760 English: 50 Chinese: 50
820 Spanish: 75
840 Industrialization
860 Chinese: 100 English: 50
880 Corporation
920 Refining Spanish: 75
940 Chinese: 100 English: 50
960 Refining
1000 Spanish: 150
1020 Chinese: 50
1060 Spanish: 150
1080 Electronics Superhighways
Chinese exchange Feudalism + 100 English exchange Conscription
Disband Horseman Start WLTPD Coal to Nottingham (demanded)=515
1100 Mass Production Engineer built
1120 Silver freight built
1140 Chivalry Spanish: 150
1180 Leadership Chinese: 100
1200 Darwin's Voyage: Tactics Machine Tools
1220 Miniaturization Pop=26 end WLTPD
Spanish: 150 English: 50
1260 Computers
1280 Research Lab Spanish: 100
1300 Mobile Warfare
English: Mobile Warfare + 50 Spanish exchange Atomic Theory Chinese: 150
1320 Silver to Madrid (demanded)=677
1340 Flight Wool to Valencia (demanded)=116
1380 Factory Sell Sewer System Chinese: 150
1400 Power Plant Sell Aqueduct
1420 Advanced Flight Manufacturing Plant
1440 Spanish: 25 Chinese: 100
1460 Rocketry Engineer built
1500 Chinese: 150
1510 Space Flight
1520 Apollo Disband Chariot
1530 Plastics s1 Disband 2 Engineers
1550 Nuclear Fission
1580 Nuclear Power
1610 Laser
1670 Fusion Power
1700 Communism
1720 Launch 15-1-1-1-1-1 SS Espionage
1721 Spy built Bribe Spanish Diplo
1722 Armor built Bribe Spanish Diplo
1723 Armor built Stealth
1724 Armor built Bribe Spanish Diplo
1725 Stealth Fighter built Bribe Spanish Diplo
1731 Bribe Babylonians Diplo (141) Bribe Spanish Diplo (222)
1732 Bribe Babylonians Diplo
1733 Bribe 2 Babylonians Diplos
1734 Nuclear Plant sell Power Plant
1738 SDI
1745 Sneak attack by Spanish Howitzer: War
1756 Landed AC

[This message has been edited by tonic (edited October 12, 2000).]

	13-10-2000 16:06									#2
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It sounds really great. But may I dare an innocent question. I know what the OCC is, but what is the Space Odyssey Challenge ?

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	13-10-2000 17:06									#3
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	13-10-2000 22:32									#4
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There were two versions of this. One was a file that John-SJ built and referenced on the thread Paul linked to. The other was the "sweet start" I mentioned on my second post in that thread. John-SJ posted both at one time. I still have the latter file at file at home. If anybody wants it I could e-mail it.

	15-10-2000 18:45									#5
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Youre start could have been better, i useally do better then that in start.
But u around bet me heavily around 300 ac when u get democracy. I useally change to communism. If i change to democracy, all my cities revolt, and my settlers get dispanded.

I wonder what was youre final pop., and how many cities u had?

	15-10-2000 22:03									#6
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Kaiser, he played this as OCC. Therefore he only had one city. Also, you don't have to worry about revolt in a democratic OCC, since most of the time you have Shake's Theater.