14-10-2000 04:13									#1
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I wondering... the player is able to move their capital from one city to another, but I rarely if ever use such a method. I never saw a purpose to it unless some terrible situation had occurred in which I felt it was threatened by an enemy. I was just wondering if anyone else ever finds a reason (short of AI invasion) when moving the capital is desirable or necessary. Or has anyone ever swung the entire heart of their civilization (capital and all) to another location building it up as the new sort of "homeland"?

By that I mean moving the capital and building up city improvements and tile improvements in a new place making it a new center of production, science and trade.

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	14-10-2000 04:54									#2
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Yes.I moved my capitol in my very first deity game.Just before launch,in preparation of an ai onslaught.Moved it to a size 1 city without walls Those were the days.Don't see much need to nowadays.

Have done it several times in MP games.More of defensive move than a logistical change.Its not so good to have your capitol on a border in a MP game.Trust me.

The ai seems to love moving it's cap sometimes.Probably some tiny glitch that sends it in a loop.

	14-10-2000 06:19									#3
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Every once in a while the AIs start to go on an insane moving streak. They usually go nuts for a couple of centuries and calm down. I never moved my capital though.

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	14-10-2000 07:10									#4
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The Babylonians - or other Civs of that colour - seem particularly to enjoy moving their capital around. Who knows? Maybe the citizens are fussy buggers.

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	15-10-2000 02:01									#5
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I've moved my capital in 2 situations. The first is after I've launched a spaceship. The other is when I have found that my entire civ has been built off in one direction and my Capital is of the perimeter. Sometimes I've done that because my Capital was directly threatened by another civ, but more often (and it is still very few times) that it was easier to relocate my Capital than it was to eliminate the corruptuion caused by most of my cities being too far away from it. In those cases, I had ended up building my civ on a different continent than where I started the game.

It's rare, but it does happen.

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	15-10-2000 12:26									#6
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Its always nice for your capital to be well protected, but as Cavebear stated, sometimes your capital is the cornerstone literally of your empire. Nothing worse than being continually harrassed by the ai in your capital. It always disrupts the flow of production. Can be a real waste of shields and science. Sometimes barbarians have this annoying habit as well, even when you set up a killing zone.

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	16-10-2000 04:56									#7
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I rarely have a problem with my capital being on the border of my empire. Even when its a coastal city, it is rarely ever harassed by enemies. I usually have at least some cities between me and an enemy, and even then, I usually just take their border cities to make an even larger buffer zone.

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	16-10-2000 18:11									#8
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It might be a good idea to move your capital if you are planning on building a SSC and find a better spot for one than what you initial found for your first city. The new and improved spot could be far from the original capital, which means production waste in wonder and improvement building and trade and beaker waste once it becomes a SSC. I've done that myself a few time just to cut down on waste in my SSC.

I've done some capital moving similar to what cavebear describes. When fighting a war with a civ on another continent, I have moved my capital to the first city captured on the enemy continent in order to prevent city bribing by the AI and keep a stronghold on the continent. I have also moved my capital to a captured AI city that was 3 squares away from an AI capital. It allowed me to keep a great strategic position until I built up enough forces to move in and capture the AI capital and the U.N.. Of course my other cities suffered from more waste in both of these instances, but I felt it was worth it.

	16-10-2000 20:35									#9
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What's cool about Civilization is how it mirrors real life!

Remember, several countries in history have moved their capital, Brazil, Peru, Germany, Israel to name a few.

Yes, I will move the capital for economic or strategic reasons. Have done it willingly less than twenty times in several hundred games

	18-10-2000 03:56									#13
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I never have any trouble with bribing really. It was occasionally a problem, but it never involved more than a few units. My AIs haven't been all too clever in that respect.

The only other reasons that for me would be something definite rather than just a precaution would be if I had a lower government in the earlier years, or having spies sent back only a little bit. The benifit to moving the capital to the frontlines in early wartime is that the frontline cities have no corruption and are better at producing units.

	18-10-2000 05:29									#14
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unless because of a SS, or some other unusual defensive reason I would only move my capitol if it were a cheaper and more effective way to reduce corruption.