17-07-2001 18:37									#1
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missed it last time

	17-07-2001 18:46									#2
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MP Diplo,
unfortunately it's hard to get them organised and keep them running

	17-07-2001 19:10									#3
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MP without question.
SP is a bore.

If more people were familiar with Tribe concept, it would easily be 1st place.

	17-07-2001 19:43									#4
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I'm sure I'd like tribes, but it's hard to get a reliable crew together, as I've found

I doubt I'd find it more enjoyable then a well played diplo game.........guess I should find out one of these days if I can......

This is an mp forum...doubt we'll get many sp votes.....

	17-07-2001 19:45									#5
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Just being a wise***. Somebody had to vote for SP...

But seriously, the last time I played MP, I know that massive cheating occurred and it sort of soiled me to the notion.

	17-07-2001 20:11									#6
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You're running with the wrong crowd.
They made MP for a reason; it kicks SP butt.

And Drake, once you get first one or two it gets easier.

	17-07-2001 20:32									#7
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I've played Civ SP too long, and was totally bored with it. Yeah, the challanges brought new interest back... OCC, No cities, No whatever... but, in all of them, you are playing a stupid AI.

MP is the ultimate challange. Nothing beats the challange of playing somebody with a real brain

And as far as cheating goes... I'm lucky. We have a large group of people that play on a regular basis. It would be a surprise to anybody if somebody was cheating. I know when somebody gets knocked out of the game, they aren't doing it to peak at the map. I know nobody will take ten minutes on their first turn so they can download the map on another computer... We all support the same set of "bugs"... incremental building is allowed... no air bases for cheat purposes... no teleportation caravans... etc... While everybody has their own opinion of what rules are their favorites... we have a standard set that we have all agreed to so that there isn't a large and LONG discussion before the start of every game. Yeah, I'm very lucky!

Keep on civin'

	17-07-2001 20:35									#8
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yes, exactly ming , i think that is crucial for MP games , knowing your regulars are good people who are there for the fun and challenge , not to find new ways of cheating to win.. as you say as long as all play by same agreed rules MP Rocks..


EDIT: its good to see ming posting to one of my threads without me getting a PCR ....

	18-07-2001 03:34									#9
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I had stopped playing civ 2 until I discovered Apolyton and Multiplaying.

	18-07-2001 03:39									#10
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MP games by far rock...... not 100% which are best but any mp game with good players is all i want..... avec what everyone else stated already

	19-07-2001 06:15									#11
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I like Diplogames the most, as I'm sure everyone is aware.

Speaking of which, anyone else here wanna substitute for the Mali permenantly in HOTW.

Hey Ming... how are you doing?



Peace.

	19-07-2001 06:50									#12
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quote: Originally posted by Ming Nothing beats the challenge of playing somebody with a real brain

	19-07-2001 12:18									#13
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Ming, i must openly disagree with you

thinking that you "know" somebody online is a bad idea. One of the founding members of the "Loyal and Honorable" Sayen Tribe in gameleague, was caught cheating during a tribe game. His name was Darkstorm.

We all thought we knew him, we were wrong. I'm not saying that there are alot of "closet" cheaters here, but the fact that you really don't know anybody here....

	19-07-2001 18:39									#14
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I don't think Dark Storm represented the normal.

With Eyes, you know the possibility exists.
With Berzerker, you know it doesn't.


One pretty much knows who they're dealing with after some time.

	19-07-2001 22:18									#15
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I voted for tribe, but like some of you alluded to, I like playing the game with people I know and trust.

Haven't got the time or patience to deal with cheaters and kids.

Like MP, but don't really care about winning, haveing a good time is all that matters to me.

Good to see a Ras thread that doesn't talk about post count.

	20-07-2001 00:44									#16
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hehehe....I remember awhile back Berz icq-ing me asking how the end turn shortcut worked for triremes.He was playing Capt's "king of the castle game"
He ain't no cheater.Just a good player keeping up to date

	20-07-2001 11:13									#17
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yeah is that regarded a sa cheat or just good palying, i seen a number of game stha tpeople come staring across the ocean to you and when you ask how thy say luck !!!!

	20-07-2001 17:20									#18
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quote: Originally posted by General Maximus Ming, i must openly disagree with you thinking that you "know" somebody online is a bad idea. I'm not saying that there are alot of "closet" cheaters here, but the fact that you really don't know anybody here....

I will disagree with your disagreement
I'm so confident that the people I play with don't cheat. When somebody new joins the group, I do turn by turn saves, and after a game is done, I go back and check
There are a "few" people that our group has stopped playing with, but we usually weed them out quickly. I have absolute faith in our regular group... we play for fun

	20-07-2001 18:49									#19
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quote: Originally posted by Rasputin yeah is that regarded a sa cheat or just good palying, i seen a number of game stha tpeople come staring across the ocean to you and when you ask how thy say luck !!!!

I see I have competition in the "Most Piss Poor Typing" category of the Apolyton Awards.

Fairly disheartening. While others are busy thumping chest claiming to be Best Civ II Player, I felt secure in knowing this award would remain under my control.

sniff

	20-07-2001 19:07									#20
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If you don't trust the people you're playing with, why bother.

It does limit who we play with, but it's worth it.

Of course when we're playing with someone new, and it takes 10 minutes for their first turn, It's usually the last game they play with us. And like Ming, I will save a few turns if we have someone new. (not that that always shows anything)

If the software was a little tighter, I might be more interested in tournaments. I was able to generate a little interest when the Apolyton tribe for fun concept appeared, but then found that everyone was already in the same tribe

Rich

	20-07-2001 22:57									#21
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definitely MP. Among the people I generally play with I have little (zero ) chance to win, but i have fun anyway.

	21-07-2001 07:34									#22
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I prefer Tribe games because it is MP play with the added nuance of coordinating strategies and tactics with someone who isn't required to consider the best time to break an alliance. I really enjoy the challenge of knowing what my own Civ needs but also what another Civ needs, and adjusting to the requirements of both.

Besides, if you win, you have someone to celebrate with, and if you lose, someone to commiserate with.

	21-07-2001 09:21									#23
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	21-07-2001 10:12									#24
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quote: Originally posted by cavebear I prefer Tribe games because it is MP play with the added nuance of coordinating strategies and tactics with someone who isn't required to consider the best time to break an alliance. I really enjoy the challenge of knowing what my own Civ needs but also what another Civ needs, and adjusting to the requirements of both. Besides, if you win, you have someone to celebrate with, and if you lose, someone to commiserate with.

Absolutely.
Tribes takes it to the zenith.

	21-07-2001 13:31									#25
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quote: Originally posted by SlowwHand I see I have competition in the "Most Piss Poor Typing" category of the Apolyton Awards. Fairly disheartening. While others are busy thumping chest claiming to be Best Civ II Player, I felt secure in knowing this award would remain under my control. sniff

1st Palce Rasputin
2nd Place Hydey
3rd Place Sloowwwhanfd

	22-07-2001 04:04									#26
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muti player by far is the best. but also tribe play i like that as much, as long as it's muti player

	22-07-2001 04:19									#27
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interesting to see Diplo and Tribe doing so well, i thought Duel might have won, but overall ,looks like most people dont care what type as long as its agaisnt humans and not AI !!

	22-07-2001 23:42									#28
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Personally i have more respect for the "Ming , Rah" group than any other. Anyone whom they trust , i tend to trust. We play for fun, (and to win) and the comraderie we have built over the last couple of years only adds to the game.....as does the icq phone... unfortunately its slowing our games down.....

As for tribes.. i wish apolyton had more tribes..... but these things come slowly i guess.

its nice the community is big enough for the many different styles of games that civ2 allows for......even if we don't always agree with whose style is better or more challenging.

Multiplayer with a good challenging group (reliable too!!!!) makes civ2 the best game ever for me....... playing God against others doing the same thing..... makes me tingle

and if i could take a partner in with me for any four man game....... Rah you would be choice

	23-07-2001 00:03									#29
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quote: Originally posted by War4ever and if i could take a partner in with me for any four man game....... Rah you would be choice

Bastard

	23-07-2001 02:38									#30
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Now Ming, don't get too upset. War4ever is just handicapping himself out of consideration to other alliances he may play against when Rah is in the game!