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cavebear
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of the Pleistocene
Oct 1999
time: 00:14
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Originally posted by deity
I suggested that it would be good form for the host to pick their civ last. I'm pleased to see that arii as host has agreed to do that in his group and think all groups should do this. |
I agree that this is probably a good practice; just good game ettiquette.
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I understand they are custom maps at King level, 1x, Roving Bands with huts. The only restrictions are NO City OR Unit bribe.*
Are there only 4 civs like last year? I hope so. AI would mess things up. arii's group seems to think there are 7 cvs? |
There will be exactly as many civs per game as there are players. No AI's. Just remember that these are scenarios and open the game with "begin scenario". Don't randomize anything (if asked - I don't think the host will be asked)!
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Is it watertight that each civ only starts with ONE settler? Sometimes Germans get 2 settlers at King level but not sure if this happens on custom maps. |
I didn't realize that there were ever 2 settlers at King level, so I can't answer whether it might happen. If it does, restart the game. I did test each scenario map once, and I didn't notice it happen then.
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* All rules are as per normal civ but there are some 'features' that everyone (?) seems to use as 'normal'.
IE,
Incremental Rush Buying;
Ship chaining;
Keep building Wonders after they are completed.....
I think these are OK. I've checked whilst playing many games about these and the majority seem to think they are fine. |
I don't want to try and make an endless list of rules (a nearly hopeless task), but agree that these are generally acceptable practices.
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Then there are things like Triangulation (controversy last year);
Swapping cities for Trade benefits;
Caraporting;
Sharing Wonders... etc etc...
These are generally regarded as NOT OK. |
I'm embarassed to say I don't know what Triangulation or Caraporting are. That is probably why I am managing the Tourney rather than playing in it. 
However, Triangulation sounds like using the city unit locator to find an opponent city. I think that is something each Group should decide themselves. If a disagreement occurs over it, then it is NOT allowed.
Is Caraporting gifting a caravan to another player to be returned to the originating Civ's cities? That is NOT OK.
The others are NOT OK.
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I thought some prior rulings by you would assist in resolving disputes BEFORE they happen
Maybe wait for a few opinions in this thread first though.... |
I hope this helps. My general preference is to have the game played as the creator intended it to be played, but even that involves some controversy. My best suggestion is that each Group should discuss the practices and "tricks" that concern them most and try to agree on some common rules for the particular game involved. Doing this kind of Tourney depends very much on the sense of fair play of all the participants.
Last year's Tourney was remarkably free of accusations of other player's trying to walk the "bleeding edge" of honorable play; I trust this year will be the same. Don't disappoint me.
Perhaps I will organize a Tourney some time where the only rule is "no second computer, no altering the rules.txt, and no outside software" just to see how lethal some games can get... LOL!
But not this time...
cavebear
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Deity Dude
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Westland, Michigan
Aug 2000
time: 00:14
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Deity I agree with you 100%. I really think we need to come up with definitive rules/protocols for all games in the tourney. I don't think, in general, that it should be left up to the players to discuss at game time. I think Cavebear as tourney directer/host should make the list. I know you said in a thread you didnt want to come up with an endless list - but unless someone comes up with the endless list we'll have endless questions and threads about it. If you feel strongly that you don't want to or don't have the time maybe someone else - I'll volunteer if no one else wants to - but input would be helpful and appreciated - could come up with a list of "issues" that the 16 players could vote on thru email sending the response to Cavebear. Cavebear could then simply compile and post the results. Remember Honest and Fair people can differ in opinion on what is Honest and Fair. The last thing I want to happen is to be called a cheater when I didn't even try or vice versa feel as though someone got an unfair advantage over me by using a tactic that I thought was not allowed. I can live with any rules that the group agrees on as long as I know what they are ahead of time.
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21-07-2001 03:48
I thought I was your favorite
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