26-10-2000 14:45									#1
	Do AI democracies collapse? Support Apolyton, buy Alpha Centauri

Okay, I just learned the hard way about AI cheats. I'm on a game in which my rich-but-not very advanced fundy govt. is squaring off against the Babalonyians' rich, advanced, democracy. My whole strategy has hinged on getting the Bab democracy to collapse, and now I find that AI cities can remain in revolt for multiple turns without incident. Even if I steal Bab advances and rush-build military, a full-on assault seems a losing proposition, since they've been building up a huge military while I've been subduing the other AIs and it's already the 20'th century. (For the record, I'm in this lousy position to begin with both because I'm a newbie at King level and because my starting position was on a large continent with five of the other six civs, who were positined so as to surround me.) So am I screwed, or is there a way to get AI democracies to collapse? TIA

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	26-10-2000 20:28									#2
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To answer your question: no, AI democracies will never collapse from disorder. To answer your secondary question: your best bet may be to make peace, if you can. Then, move one of your units (edit: or, just contact them via the F3 screen) next to a Babylonian unit. If the Babs hate you enough, they will revolt into anarchy during your turn (another well-documented AI cheat), so they can declare war on you.
[This message has been edited by DaveV (edited October 26, 2000).]

	29-10-2000 03:25									#3
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I have seen that accursed american democracy have a city stay in civil disorder for 5 turns at a time without the government falling.

	29-10-2000 03:27									#4
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Not to mention that they will also sometimes declare war or sneak attack without changing out of democracy.