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Hope College
Apr 2000
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MidKnight Lament
All three SG's
Ming
yin26
Horse
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Immortal Wombat
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in perpetuity
Dec 2000
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As almost all the suggestions here are great, and will be done sooner or later, I will jsut agree with the above, and add:
Harlan - Civ2 scenarios, CTP graphics, units, helped make CTP2 Alex scenario...
DarkCloud - Apolyton statistitian
Solver - You.
Locutus - CTP1/2 SLIC master
DanQ - co-owner
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Solver
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Apolyton Duke Of Something
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Latvia, Riga
Sep 2000
time: 07:14
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Good thread. Markos, perhaps top this instead of Velociryx ?
Well, I would also like to read reasons why you think a specific person should be interviewed.
But, Faces of Apolyton will NOT have any off-topicers, for a pretty good time, if not forever. Yes, call me a discriminator, but there are so many on-topicers to interview.
As for interview with Markos, I've spoken to him so much that I already know everything needed for the interview. Hold on, you owner  !
Interview with me... this will also follow someday, and will be an example of when I don't ask a sibgle question. Prepare for 10 pages then  .
I also see of interest to have Yin26 interviewed.
ACOLers - don't you see that this is called "Faces of Apolyton", not "Mugs of Apolyton, ACOL, CGN, Microsoft and Linux". Too much joking here, well.
Finally, I repeat, I don't know all of the posters, and I know no off-topicer, so please include at least one phrase motivation-description to your picks.
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Solver
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Apolyton Duke Of Something
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Latvia, Riga
Sep 2000
time: 07:14
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Ming,
You know my opinion about the OT very well, we had enough discussion on this in the staff room. You are modertator of the OTF, so that's an important forum to you, but you know how don't I like it. Plus, I periodically look in there, just to find that 95% threads are spam, trolls, stupidity and banality, not worth opening.
I want the interviews to show people who contributed to Civ, who are well-known players, or modmakers. That's why Velociryx's guide, WesW's Mods, Tau Ceti's Multiplaying effort make me interview them.
I didn't say I will never interview OT people, but there are surely many on-topicers to interview before, so don't expect me to get to them soon.
I have never isnulted anyone openly on these forums, but it's time to begin - for personal reasons, I will NOT interview Alexander's Horse. If the interview with him is about to be done somewhen, I don't care who makes the questions and emails them to him, but I won't do it. He's nothing but the local super-spammer. I really hope he isn't reading this, but looks like he doesn't often read anything except OTF  .
Harsh opinion.
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Ming
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Originally posted by Solver
He is an OTF poster now. He has been a gamer, like most, but now he posts in OTF. I will not change my mind about interviewing him, for a number of reasons. |
If you have personal reasons... fine. But you accuse him of not knowing what he is saying, and you are doing the same thing. Sure he posts in the OTF... so do I, so does rah, so does Xin Yu, so does War4ever... and so do MANY MANY active members of the civ community. You make it sound as if he ONLY posts there... and that is not correct. He was an active poster in the civ forums long before many of the "spammers" moved to on topic forums when otf posts no longer counted. He was, and IS still an active Civ MP player. And yes, some of his topics are meant to inflame the standard civ thinking, but he has also started many serious on topic threads.
Granted, him and I go head to head on how things are run here, but I respect the fact that he is a gamer first, and still games. While you might think he got to Deity by spamming the OTF (like Mao did ), he probably has more ON TOPIC posts than anybody but me or MarkG.
Now you "suggested" that I may be biased because I'm one of the OTF moderators... but you forget that I also Moderate the Civ II forums. So I am in a good position to judge just who is and who isn't a ACTIVE MEMBER of the Apolyton Civ Community.
So please get your facts straight. While I'm sure he has pissed you off in the past (and many people could probably say the same), at least be fair in your comments. If your reasons are totally personal, fine... but don't say he isn't a gamer or not an active part of the on topic forums...
*I can't believe this... I'm actually supporting AH in something*
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Chris 62
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But I'm feeling MUCH better now
Jan 2001
time: 00:14
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Solver, I think your letting your animosity cloud your judgement in regaurds to AH.
The man is interesting, and a real gamer.
Since you want gamers, and oldtimers, another list:
Jay Bee: The Spanish site's guiding light, forum moderator, scenario designer, and one of Apolyton's founding fathers, as far as posters go.
Slowwhand: Largest advocate of the "tribes" concept in civilization multi-player, and very active in the MP games.
Nemo: Creator of some of the finest and most innovative scenarios for civilization ever.
Ming: On the list again. Avid gamer, and ambassador of the game as a game, not just a pass time. Plus we know he loves to flap his gums. 
Rah: So we can find out Ming's real name!
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Solver
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Apolyton Duke Of Something
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Latvia, Riga
Sep 2000
time: 07:14
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I trust you Ming, when it comes to judging, but if you listed 10 most active posters in the OTF, wouldn't AH be there? He would, I think. Plus, there's a big difference between posting in OTF sometimes , like one post a day, and regularily posting there. Third category is posting at the OTF never or close to never, and I belong there. My last OTF post was months ago, and I don't think my next one will come soon. But I think we'd stop discussing him now. All in all, my reasons are mostly personal, and I will not interview AH, even if he stops posting at OTF at all.
As for other off-topicers, I don't know them at all, names like Rah, Giancarlo, Sargle, Lancer, Orange, Supersneak, Bugs ****ing Bunny and others, are first time hear to me. I know all the posters in CtP and SMAC section, I know many posting in Apolyton Community forum and some from Civ 3 forums, but all those OTF name are, alas, empty sounds to me. Probably many off-topicers would saay the same about me. I view Apolyton as a site consisting of two slightly different worlds, on-topic and off-topic, that do meet, but it happens rarely.
Nemo - even though in my Civ 2 experience I played little scenarios, not really liking them, I will not be excluding scenario maker, of course.
BTW, I'm curios how many people we have that have played Civ, Civ II, CtP, CtP II and SMAC? I'm one of them then.
Rah - who is he? Don't still get that one.
And Ming, one final notice. When Civ 3 comes out, I'll take a look at how did off-topic activity change. Of course, when people register at ACS, they are gamers, as it's tough for a non-civer to find us, but I'm not as sure as you that the OTF activity will have a decrease. For some reason, the ones bored with Civ, still post here, in the OTF. When I became bored with AoE 2, I didn't post in off-topic discussions of the AoE 2 boards, I just said goodbye, and since then didn't appear there often.
And to have a fine revenge over you all, I will interview myself someday. Also as the man who has never posted in the OTF since the forum upgrade, huh.
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While I'm sure he has pissed you off in the past (and many people could probably say the same) |
Isn't that a proof that he sometimes acts too harshly?
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While you might think he got to Deity by spamming the OTF (like Mao did ), he probably has more ON TOPIC posts than anybody but me or MarkG. |
From my rare visits to OTF I remember Mao, yes. But, I have never been among those rating people by their post counts (even though I use it as a measure to see how often is someone at Apolyton). I also remember that AH has several thousands posts taken away, when he was banned. So, look here! AH has done things that forced the admins to use counter-measures (and Ming knows it very well, BTW, as do I). It means that he sometimes spams, not only posts for gaming issues. I am proud that I have never been banned.
Checked my post count, something about 1530. First, it means than about 1515 posts are on-topic. And, with these posts, I made a PBEM ladder in CtP and SMAC, plus broke Markos' resistance and started the Faces of Apolyton series.
This post is certainly getting too long, and I'd like to conclude with it, and close the discussion about OTF discrimination  .
This thread was meant for something else.
Finally (I hope finally), thanks Chris 62 for your notes. Sure AH is interesting, otherwise he wouldn't offend me . Yes, yes, I'm shutting up and clicking the Submit Reply button. Hopefully.
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TCO
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Richmond, VA
Jan 1970
time: 00:14
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quote:
Originally posted by Solver
Ming,
You know my opinion about the OT very well, we had enough discussion on this in the staff room. You are modertator of the OTF, so that's an important forum to you, but you know how don't I like it. Plus, I periodically look in there, just to find that 95% threads are spam, trolls, stupidity and banality, not worth opening.
I want the interviews to show people who contributed to Civ, who are well-known players, or modmakers. That's why Velociryx's guide, WesW's Mods, Tau Ceti's Multiplaying effort make me interview them.
I didn't say I will never interview OT people, but there are surely many on-topicers to interview before, so don't expect me to get to them soon.
I have never isnulted anyone openly on these forums, but it's time to begin - for personal reasons, I will NOT interview Alexander's Horse. If the interview with him is about to be done somewhen, I don't care who makes the questions and emails them to him, but I won't do it. He's nothing but the local super-spammer. I really hope he isn't reading this, but looks like he doesn't often read anything except OTF .
Harsh opinion. |
If you are going to be in charge of the interviews, you need to be more dispassionate and insert less of your own opinions into the selection process.
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TCO
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Richmond, VA
Jan 1970
time: 00:14
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quote:
Originally posted by Solver
I trust you Ming, when it comes to judging, but if you listed 10 most active posters in the OTF, wouldn't AH be there? He would, I think. Plus, there's a big difference between posting in OTF sometimes , like one post a day, and regularily posting there. Third category is posting at the OTF never or close to never, and I belong there. My last OTF post was months ago, and I don't think my next one will come soon. But I think we'd stop discussing him now. All in all, my reasons are mostly personal, and I will not interview AH, even if he stops posting at OTF at all.
As for other off-topicers, I don't know them at all, names like Rah, Giancarlo, Sargle, Lancer, Orange, Supersneak, Bugs ****ing Bunny and others, are first time hear to me. I know all the posters in CtP and SMAC section, I know many posting in Apolyton Community forum and some from Civ 3 forums, but all those OTF name are, alas, empty sounds to me. Probably many off-topicers would saay the same about me. I view Apolyton as a site consisting of two slightly different worlds, on-topic and off-topic, that do meet, but it happens rarely.
Nemo - even though in my Civ 2 experience I played little scenarios, not really liking them, I will not be excluding scenario maker, of course.
BTW, I'm curios how many people we have that have played Civ, Civ II, CtP, CtP II and SMAC? I'm one of them then.
Rah - who is he? Don't still get that one.
And Ming, one final notice. When Civ 3 comes out, I'll take a look at how did off-topic activity change. Of course, when people register at ACS, they are gamers, as it's tough for a non-civer to find us, but I'm not as sure as you that the OTF activity will have a decrease. For some reason, the ones bored with Civ, still post here, in the OTF. When I became bored with AoE 2, I didn't post in off-topic discussions of the AoE 2 boards, I just said goodbye, and since then didn't appear there often.
And to have a fine revenge over you all, I will interview myself someday. Also as the man who has never posted in the OTF since the forum upgrade, huh.
Isn't that a proof that he sometimes acts too harshly?
From my rare visits to OTF I remember Mao, yes. But, I have never been among those rating people by their post counts (even though I use it as a measure to see how often is someone at Apolyton). I also remember that AH has several thousands posts taken away, when he was banned. So, look here! AH has done things that forced the admins to use counter-measures (and Ming knows it very well, BTW, as do I). It means that he sometimes spams, not only posts for gaming issues. I am proud that I have never been banned.
Checked my post count, something about 1530. First, it means than about 1515 posts are on-topic. And, with these posts, I made a PBEM ladder in CtP and SMAC, plus broke Markos' resistance and started the Faces of Apolyton series.
This post is certainly getting too long, and I'd like to conclude with it, and close the discussion about OTF discrimination .
This thread was meant for something else.
Finally (I hope finally), thanks Chris 62 for your notes. Sure AH is interesting, otherwise he wouldn't offend me . Yes, yes, I'm shutting up and clicking the Submit Reply button. Hopefully. |
Solver, the OT is a substantial and important part of what makes Apolyton, Apolyton.
I've noticed in other discussions (web page design, etc.) that you expect everybody else to be like you. That's not the way things work. You need to try to understand the audience and act accordingly.
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Solver
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Apolyton Duke Of Something
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Latvia, Riga
Sep 2000
time: 07:14
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More replies to this tomorrow, as I'm going to be in a hurry soon.
Jay, if there were more people like AH, in on-topic, I'd run like hell in other direction. What's good about him? Posts I've seen from him were average at best, and he is very quick at insulting people, he can insult somebody in 2 posts.
Ming, didn't expect that of you .
GP, that's my character. I don't expect everybody to be like me, but I want them. I like when people agree to me, but what earlier discussions are you talking about? I didn't much talk in threads with you previously. As you see, I do more or less care about public opinion here, I ask you whom should be interviewed, but in real life, what "everybody" thinks means nothing to me. I don't care what "everybody" thinks, does, etc., and thoughts of "everybody" won't make me change my opinion.
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23-07-2001 05:25
Anyway, ssince this is now a public matter lemme express my opinion as well. I also think you are wrong with AH, Solver. I wish there were more people like him on the forums. 
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