20-10-2000 16:27									#1
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I just had an incicident in which the american empire declared war on me again, so I took about 7 howies down and took their capital.
THEY DIDN'T DIVIDE.
all that's left are me, the miniscule japanese, and the americans taking up two thirds of the world.
I remember the romans dividing several times while the americans were conquering them, so why didn't they divide for me?

	20-10-2000 17:42									#2
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The conditoins for causing civil war in a Civ are
1) There must be 6 or less players (so there is someone for the rebels to become)
2) You must be the most powerful when you take over their capital.

Sounds like the Americans were the most powerful civ at the time, so you taking over their capital didn't cause civil war.

Tiz

	20-10-2000 22:44									#3
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Uh, Tizzy, i thought that if you captured the capital of the MOST powerfull empire, that empire would split. I don't believe it has anything to do with your own size.

	22-10-2000 17:32									#4
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The first time the romans were divided by the americans, they were they biggest civ in the world.

	22-10-2000 18:02									#5
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yeah it was my understanding, too, that you had to take the capital of the most powerful civ. It wouldn't make any sense if YOU had to be the most powerful civ...

	23-10-2000 02:10									#6
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Sounds like the Romans used up a lot of slots already. Were there any candidates left for a new tribe?

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	23-10-2000 03:09									#7
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Rib, it says in the first post that it's th japanese, the americans, and Father Beast left over.

	23-10-2000 14:28									#8
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This happened way back in 2050 or so. the greeks and the indians had been wiped out previously. The americans went to war with the biggest civ on the planet, which was the romans. They took the roman capitol, and they split into the sioux. a handful of turns later the americans took the new roman capitol and they split into the carthaginians. The americans mopped up the board with them all, and became this enormous superpower. in 2875, I took their capitol and they didn't split. What gives?

	24-10-2000 09:45									#10
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maybe the civ splitting no longer works after the retirement date? (similar to your score not getting recorded post-retirement)

	23-10-2000 22:26									#11
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Isn't there some date after which new civs don't appear? That would then apply to AI splits, I would think.

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	23-10-2000 23:53									#12
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I always sneak attack a civ, that I've been peaceful with forever. That's the only time I can cause a civil war. If I'm at war already it never works. Anywho...

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	24-10-2000 15:34									#14
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HMMnnnn... Can't remember if the americans sneak attacked the romans back when they took their capitols. I think they were at war already.
the retirement date doesn't hold water. it was already 2050 or later when the americans divided and conquered the romans.

	26-10-2000 13:12									#15
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I don't know how to get this to happen. I declared anarchy and sneak attacked, took their capitol. I declared war and took their capitol. I waited until they declared war and took their capitol. I've been chasing their capitol around for 30 years. took it 3 times from a different city each time. My reputation is atrocious, and I STILL CAN'T GET THEM TO DIVIDE.
how do I do this?

	29-10-2000 03:30									#16
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Is it possible that they won't divide while they're a democracy? Tell me, has anyone caused civil war in a democracy before?

PLEASE HELP

	30-10-2000 07:24									#17
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This has only happened for me once. The French (me) split the Romans into two! The year was around 1500 BC. I was so happy. They attacked me first and in the next turn a few breaks went my way. I guess they had no idea that I so many chariots and catapults near their capital. If I remember right, they were a Monarchy.

	01-11-2000 11:14									#18
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There are three conditions that have to be met. The civilization to be split must have:

1. a civilization of the same color that has not previously been in the game.
2. more than four cities (five or more).
3. been larger than your civilization.

When the split does not occur, it's usually because of a miscalculation of size. I've been disappointed several times when I was sure the other civilization was larger than me, and it wasn't.

	02-11-2000 04:38									#19
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rarely happens to me. It happened when I played the battle of the sexes scenario which I believe was on the conflicts of civilization disc. It was the only way I can win. The females were tearing my howies apart . So I just went for their capitol and bam it was all over.