26-07-2001 17:41									#1
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Alright pick your favorite piece of fluff. This is little stuff for Civ3 that has absolutely no impact on the game itself, does nothing to help or detract from gameplay, just stuff that creates a fun environment to play in.

If you pick other, say what it is

	26-07-2001 17:53									#2
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The palace is my favourite because it was interactive and customisable, unlike the Throne room which always ended the same if you took all the upgrades.

	26-07-2001 18:01									#3
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For me, other. All the original music of Civ, enhanced a bit but not too hacked up like the civ2 versions. I would love to hear those songs again, it would be a massive nostalgia trip

	26-07-2001 18:04									#4
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Damn you people, how can you have a Palace or a Throne Room without The King? Let ELVIS Live!!

	26-07-2001 18:49									#5
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I choose newspapers, though both the city view and ELVIS is also important features of the game

	26-07-2001 20:10									#6
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I want Elvis back, plus the other advisors! They made the game more fun!

But the messages they give must vary more.

	26-07-2001 20:17									#7
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quote: Originally posted by Provost Harrison For me, other. All the original music of Civ, enhanced a bit but not too hacked up like the civ2 versions. I would love to hear those songs again, it would be a massive nostalgia trip

Yeah, especially the one that played when you discovered a new tech " Dudu-dududu-duuuuuu".....or something like that

	27-07-2001 02:07									#8
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OTHER: STATISTICS.

i don't know if u would consider them fluff, but a nations GNP wasn't really VITAL to the game, but it helped a bit.

and if ure not considering that fluff, then the ADVISORS always gave me a lot of laughs, without providing any inciteful information.

BUILD MORE UNITS. (my 10 stacks of 1 legion and 2 catapults in caravels isnt enough)

EXPLORE. (i already have 20 cities and met all the other civs)

BUILD SCIENTIFIC SHEEIT. (3 turns is too slow, i know)

THE PEOPLE ARE UNHAPPY. (screw them. WORK DAMMIT)

and now, for the NEW stuff...

MAKE MORE CULTURE.

grand.

	27-07-2001 02:14									#9
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I haven't played Civ1 in so long i don't even remember the newspaper and even then i was so young. can anyone remind me what it looked like?

	27-07-2001 02:17									#10
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A "newspaper" would pop up on the screen, with the main headline being some important announcement ("Queen Elizabeth will be retiring in 20 years" is the one I remember best).

	27-07-2001 02:23									#11
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This is OT but it feelt a little unnecessary making a new thread just for this, as for as I know there are 2 versions of Civ 1, the crude looking PC version and the nice looking Mac version, why is there such a big difference, and is CivNet like the Mac version but for the PC, and in that case, where could I get it?

	27-07-2001 04:06									#12
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quote: Originally posted by KrazyHorse A "newspaper" would pop up on the screen, with the main headline being some important announcement ("Queen Elizabeth will be retiring in 20 years" is the one I remember best).

Well, the one I remember the most was the news: "CityName build CityImprovement"

	27-07-2001 04:44									#13
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How can we get by without the king.

Uh-huh-huh!

	27-07-2001 05:57									#14
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I voted for other. The reason for that is because the demographics are my favorite fluff. They may not have been very good in Civ2 but if they were expanded upon they could become very interestng. Either way though, demographics is my favorite fluff.

	27-07-2001 06:30									#15
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my favourite bit of fluff is the Diplo advisor !!!!

	27-07-2001 10:29									#16
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Man, you've got to respect a serious empire-building game that features an Elvis impersonator... I mean, that is so in your face it becomes sublime... Elvis, in a toga, begging for entertainers!?!?
Viva Civ2..
Thankya verrymuch, Thank ya.

	27-07-2001 11:20									#17
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quote: Originally posted by Wille This is OT but it feelt a little unnecessary making a new thread just for this, as for as I know there are 2 versions of Civ 1, the crude looking PC version and the nice looking Mac version, why is there such a big difference, and is CivNet like the Mac version but for the PC, and in that case, where could I get it?

There were many versions of the original Civ. If you recall it came at a time when the entire industry was not yet dominated by Windows and Mac. There were DOS, Windows 3.1, Mac, versions for sure and I am pretty sure Imegia and a couple others.

CivNet was the multiplayer addition of Civ that came out shortly before Civ II. It had the most updated graphics of the bunch and allowed you to play against your friends. Not sure you can find it to buy anywhere but there is a site online that has old games to download. Forget the name, can someone help me out?

	27-07-2001 11:58									#18
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quote: Originally posted by Rasputin my favourite bit of fluff is the Diplo advisor !!!!

Right on! I futilely looked for our favourite diplomat on the voting list only to be sorely disappointed.

FORGET ELVIS, BRING BACK DIPLOBABE!

Techwins: congrats on the new Avatar - looking good, Mortimer!

	27-07-2001 13:16									#19
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Second-favourite piece of fluff: the Civ I history-replay option at the end of the game - one of the best features of CivI, and sorely missed in CivII.

Techwins: looks like I spoke too soon. I still prefer the Metallica avatar.

	27-07-2001 14:42									#20
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Lets see.

Why don't we have all of them in Civ 3, selectable by options? Dang we have 600MB on the CD, surely there will be enough room for all the fluff.

Of course we have to have the Palace instead of the Throne Room.

	27-07-2001 15:47									#21
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quote: Originally posted by Urban Ranger Lets see. Why don't we have all of them in Civ 3, selectable by options? Dang we have 600MB on the CD, surely there will be enough room for all the fluff. Of course we have to have the Palace instead of the Throne Room.

Yeah, let's get 'em all, I mean all them there were in Civ1 and the advisors (at least the two last in the row ) from Civ2

	27-07-2001 15:50									#22
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quote: Originally posted by tniem Not sure you can find it to buy anywhere but there is a site online that has old games to download. Forget the name, can someone help me out?

Yes would someone please help

	27-07-2001 15:56									#23
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Yes, I agree: the more fluff the more gameplay!

	27-07-2001 16:20									#24
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quote: Originally posted by Wille Yes would someone please help

Civ and civnet were on the Underdogs site until recently. I heartily recommend this place for some top notch old strategy titles. Since they have been removed, I can only assume MicroProse are actively enforcing their copyright and the games are not "abandonware". All you can do is use search engines to trawl for the likes of "civnet download" and bear in mind that you are possibly obtaining software illegally if you download it.

	28-07-2001 00:39									#25
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Those of you looking for a place to download old games like Civ I:

Someone on another thread (and I have forgotten who and where exactly, sorry) posted a link to this site earlier.
gamebird.dk

It has Civ I, Colonization, MOO and a ton of other abandonware.
Haven't downloaded anything there myself yet so I cannot make any statement as to reliability.

	28-07-2001 00:42									#26
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In my frenzy to provide that link in the above post, I forgot to say that I voted for Elvis as my favorite bit of fluff because he was useful as well. Turning extra workers into little Elvis's makes your citizens happy!

	28-07-2001 01:01									#27
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Other: City Screen (like Civ2)

I liked all the fluff that went along with having a City Screen (not City View) instead of having it all in small menus (like CTP). I like all that stuff in a city window. Infact, I want more! Maybe graphs? Customizable screen, more population heads, maybe an option that can be turned on/off to have a 'build your own city'. For example, when you build a new building, you can place it in special areas on the city view screen (if we have it, which i think we will from screenshots). Possablyanimated icons. Maybe as the city grows it gets more features?

	28-07-2001 03:47									#28
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aahhh the newspaper....so useless, yet so enjoyable!!!

	28-07-2001 03:55									#29
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The Palace.
I downloaded CivI again half a year ago only to fulfill my old dream to see the Palace completely ready.
When I was 10 it looked better.

	28-07-2001 03:58									#30
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Fluff? Where to begin?

Definitely, we have to the Elvis entertainer back. The King was a great addition to the game, although since not everyone loves him a user selectable entertainer graphic would be nice.

Demographics were cool too; looking at a screen and knowing that I have the highest population, highest land area, highest pollution, etc., was cool. I really miss that from the CTP series.

The history replay at the end of the game was essential. I never figured out why they didn't include it in Civ2, and it is sorely missed. Knowing how my empire expanded and shrank over time was neat, even though it mainly will show expansion nowadays.

The palace: it has to be user customizable. If we end up with something that always looks the same no matter what then I'm turning it off. I don't care if it's a palace or a race car, just so long as I can exert my personal touch on it.

And finally, funny messages would be nice. Such and such had built such and such, etc, etc. Example: The city of Rome has built an aqueduct, unprepared citizens are now experiencing flooding!