14-11-2000 10:43									#1
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this topic came up in Jim W's thread and rather than threadjack it i figured i'd start a new thread.

to summarize:
some people have not gotten empty huts while others have. what are the determining factors as to what causes empty huts? difficulty level? barb activity level? version of civ?

i have gotten empty huts, but i don't remember in which games and therefor what the particular settings were. i have gold edition.

	14-11-2000 10:50									#2
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last night i played in a villages only game
I got empty huts while my opponent got tons of advanced tribes, hence he kicked our asses.

On raging hordes i rarely see a hut that is empty, in fact i can't remember off the top of my head ever getting one, although i am sure i must have.

IMO the harder the barb level, the less chance of huts being empty, but i have no REAL proof of this

	14-11-2000 10:53									#3
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my settings are normally:

large random map 120x75

warlord

7 civs

roving bands

select comp players ON

bloodlust no spaceships ON

hope this helps your research into the anomaly that is "The Empty Hut"


[This message has been edited by Ridock The Savage (edited November 13, 2000).]

	14-11-2000 10:56									#4
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what version of civ are you using ridock?

	13-11-2000 23:04									#5
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im playing SM's Civilization 2 SP

if you're asking for the exact number I dont even know...I tried to find out if I needed the patch or not...but I found out nowhere within the game files what exact version it is. know how?

	13-11-2000 23:10									#6
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don't recall how to get the precise numbers...

but no i was wondering if you had regular civ, fw, gold, etc. so thanks.

apparently its not version dependent....

	13-11-2000 23:28									#7
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its not that it happens every hut its just that it happens often enough to the point it seems like another part of the game to me...


I would start a game on a default map, resources not reandomized, and find one of these huts. And try it with all the settings to see if its just created when map is created or if really does depend on the barbs and what not.

but of course I could have no idea what Im talking about - who knows? I dont

	13-11-2000 23:36									#8
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I've tipped thousands of huts in single-player, and haven't seen an empty one since my first couple games (before I moved up to Deity/Raging). Most of this is version 2.42, but some MGE also.

I've tipped quite a few huts in MP, too, and I'd say the same rule applies. The only game I can recall seeing any empties was at King/restless.

	13-11-2000 23:43									#9
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Only play raging hordes, never seen an empty hut. Didn't even know it was possible. Played well over 200 SP games past 1 AD on the 2.42 patch.

	13-11-2000 23:50									#10
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Since adding patch 1.3 I can't remember seeing an empty hut. This was discussed in another thread, but I'm too lazy to find it today.

Always play Raging/Deity

RAH

	14-11-2000 00:50									#11
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I can't speak on single player, or levels below King.
In multiplayer, King/Emporer/Deity levels,I have certainly gotten empty huts.
I don't consider this to be a rarity.

	14-11-2000 00:51									#12
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Geez, I wish I could claim I never get empty huts. I've gotten quite a few in a current MP game with raging hordes........still, an empty village is better than the dreaded red...........

	14-11-2000 01:33									#13
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What does it say when you tip an empty hut? Nothing? Some cute saying?

	14-11-2000 01:47									#14
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"Village Lies in Ruins."

	14-11-2000 02:05									#15
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i cant remember any time when i have gotten an empty hut... but i always played on raging hordes - i like the barbs you see

	14-11-2000 07:27									#16
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I think it could be the level played at. When I played a lot of games at Emperor level, I got the occasional hut which gave the message "This village has long been abandoned" and got nothing.

However since playing at Deity and with OCC I haven't come across empty huts.

	14-11-2000 17:46									#17
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the only time in recent history when I got the "Village lies in ruins" message was in the OCC comparison game where we played both a civ and the barbarians - then I got four (yes 4!) on the trot - I cannot recall having seen this other than here in the last twelve months (and that's a lot of games 2.42 & MP - all at Deity)


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