28-07-2001 21:25									#1
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After Sim Golf and Civ III

I was paging through an old Computer Gaming World and saw that he said he was planning to do next a "Massive Multiplayer Game" I have a feeling that he wants to work with Will Wright on the "Sims Online" since he said that it was going to be the next big thing.

Hopefully he does a Civ IV Massively multiplayer game that can handle multiple servers... but, alas, he seems to be thinking about joining Maxis and is obsessed about The Sims online.

	28-07-2001 22:00									#2
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Sim Golf Online? What I really wanna see is Pirates online

	28-07-2001 22:22									#3
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Sid, you're a civer! Don't leave us, remain with the Civ community!

	29-07-2001 01:48									#4
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This is great. Civ3 isn't even out yet, half of the visitors to this forum are complaining about something (or so it seems), we're all impatient for the release of Civ3, and now people are worried about what he's going to do next?!? Jeez, can't we worry about one thing at a time?

	29-07-2001 02:14									#5
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quote: Originally posted by DarkCloud After Sim Golf and Civ III

Colonization 2

	29-07-2001 02:31									#6
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quote: Originally posted by Gangerolf Colonization 2

Yeah, in 3-D...*drool*

	29-07-2001 03:17									#7
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I heard that PopTop, the makers of Railroad Tycoon II were planning on making Pirates! 2 after Railroad Tycoon III.

	29-07-2001 04:19									#8
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quote: Originally posted by DarkCloud I heard that PopTop, the makers of Railroad Tycoon II were planning on making Pirates! 2 after Railroad Tycoon III.

What an excellent idea! Why come up with something original like Civ, Pirates! and RR when you can make all those sequels, clones and remakes. Why take chances if you can play it safe?


P.S
This doesn't mean that I wouldn't like colonization 2. Although I'd rather have something new and original that could surpass it.

	29-07-2001 06:35									#9
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Is Pirates! a violent game? I never played it so I don't really know. As a close follower of Poptop I know they will not be making any violent games, so if Pirates has alot of violence you can count them out on the sequel watch. The founder and head guy at Poptop (Phil Stienmeyer) has basically stated he won't make a game more violent than Tropico. Of course since I never played Pirates this could be a useless post.

Alantus

	29-07-2001 06:41									#10
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quote: Originally posted by Alantus Is Pirates! a violent game? I never played it so I don't really know. As a close follower of Poptop I know they will not be making any violent games, so if Pirates has alot of violence you can count them out on the sequel watch. The founder and head guy at Poptop (Phil Stienmeyer) has basically stated he won't make a game more violent than Tropico. Of course since I never played Pirates this could be a useless post. Alantus

I believe its about as violent as the Civ games.

	29-07-2001 08:01									#11
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Would be shocked if Poptop was involved in that case.

	29-07-2001 13:25									#12
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Colonazation 2 sounds good.

	29-07-2001 14:31									#13
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Yes, but I would prefer a sequel to SMAC(X).

	29-07-2001 16:53									#14
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Question:
How many sequels has SID made sofar?

I would say none, Civ3 can be considered as first real sequel for Sid or then maybe not. Sid has games, but he apereantly likes to try something new each time.

Sofar Sid has made a half a dussin different games I love/loved, so I do think that Sid will try something new next time also. (And maybe I'll like the next one.)

	29-07-2001 16:56									#15
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None, as far as I know. This is one of the cool things about Sid is he's always up to something new. For a while, he was THE guy for fighter-jet sims! Then he was THE guy for this and then that and on and on. Of course, he hasn't been THE guy lately in terms of pioneering genres (but that was likely never his focus anyway), and I think he's happy simply working on what he likes even if that means riding the tailcoats of another company. Hell, the man deserves it.

And if Civ 3 fails, he always has the way out: "Well, people KNOW that I didn't really make it. Really."

	29-07-2001 17:00									#16
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By the way, a complete (?) list of his games...of course these all weren't entirely HIS, but you'll get the picture:

Silent Service (1985)

F-15 Strike Eagle (1985)

NATO Division Commander (1985)

Conflict in Vietnam (1985)

Crusade in Europe and Decision in the Desert (1985)

Sid Meier's Pirates! (1987)

Red Storm Rising (1987)

F-19 Stealth Fighter (1988)

Gunship (1989)

Railroad Tycoon (1990)

Sid Meier's Civilization (1991)

Sid Meier's Covert Action (1991)

CPU Bach (1993)

Sid Meier's Colonization (1994)

Sid Meier's CivNet (1995)

Sid Meier's Civilization II (1997)

Magic: The Gathering (1997)

Sid Meier's Gettysburg! (then) Antietam! (1997)

Sid Meier's Alpha Centauri + Alien Crossfire

GOLF!!!!!!!!!

	30-07-2001 00:56									#17
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I didn't think he made Magic: The Gathering?

	30-07-2001 02:08									#18
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He was brought in to improve the 1 player 'adventure' part of the game. He played no part in developing the basic M:TG card game.

	30-07-2001 03:35									#19
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I would be interested in a civ style game totally online. You could start a new world with some friends or you could join a world already created. You also could have thousands of countries and a huge map. And instead of having year/month turns they could be like days. It would be more realistic than the Civ games so far. You would have to include a lot more tech's and units but i think it would be fun. Also with the huge map(like at least 30 as big as you can get normal maps) you wouldn't have a smarter country picking on one with less tech's as much. Also if you did lose to a bigger country you could still play. If they were democratic you could run for election vs. the countries president and if your former cities had a larger population you would be elected. You could also throw coups if the leader was hated so much or if he didn't support the military enough and things like that. This is the problem with past Civ games IMO because once you conquer a country they support you without any hatered. I have been recently talking with a friend about everquest(i think that is what it is called i have never played it) and in that game you build a warrior and can build different kinds of warriors. This lead me to thinking about this kind of Civ game. It would be a totally different kind of MP game because there would almost never be a winner(because of the size of the game and all) and it would be almost like the real world with all the different people. The only problem i can think of is what happens when you are off line. well you could have your cities auto produce units and buildings and what not and when you get attacked you allies would have to help you and if they are offline they would have to set there units to protect you in case of an attack or something like that. Also, it couldn't be a turn based game i don't think because it woudl take way too long, but if it was real time it would work. I really think this could be a fun game, but that is just my opinion. If you guys feel the same way post and who knows maybe we can start a new civ style game

Last edited by Beckdawg on 30-07-2001 at 03:54

	30-07-2001 03:52									#20
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quote: Originally posted by DarkCloud I heard that PopTop, the makers of Railroad Tycoon II were planning on making Pirates! 2 after Railroad Tycoon III.

Does anyone have any links relating to Railroad Tycoon III? I wasn't aware it was in production until I saw this, and a look at the poptop website doesn't help, and a search I did only indicates it should already be out...

	30-07-2001 05:25									#21
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or maybe what i just said about MP is what the have instore!!!!!!! but being a member of the pessimists i must say probably not lol. I would love to see that game though. there is some online game like it i played once but i can't remember what it was called. they had a free verson and a pay for verson. Any body know what i am talking about? if so PM me or post after this one

	30-07-2001 11:25									#22
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DarkCloud Said:
I didn't think he made Magic: The Gathering?

I think Microprose did, but not Sid Meier personally.

	31-07-2001 01:25									#23
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try http://www.railroadtycoon3.com
that might work... or go to this site:
http://www.gamepost.com/~express/

or search for tropico sites... They will have links on them to Railraod tycoon 3 sites.

	31-07-2001 08:11									#24
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quote: Originally posted by DarkCloud try http://www.railroadtycoon3.com that might work... or go to this site: http://www.gamepost.com/~express/ or search for tropico sites... They will have links on them to Railraod tycoon 3 sites.

Thanks... The first didn't work but the second has some info... Doesn't look like it is in production after all though

	31-07-2001 21:58									#25
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It is in production according to the designer- Read some back issues of Computer Games Magazine or visit their website
(search google for it)

The owner of PopTop began work on it a few months ago.

	31-07-2001 22:03									#26
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quote: Originally posted by yin26 And if Civ 3 fails, he always has the way out: "Well, people KNOW that I didn't really make it. Really."

I'm surprised you didn't say "after Civ 3 fails..."

	31-07-2001 22:42									#27
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Yin may act big and tough, but deep down, he's just drooling over the chance to actually play civ3.

	01-08-2001 02:11									#28
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quote: Originally posted by Alex 14 DarkCloud Said: I didn't think he made Magic: The Gathering? I think Microprose did, but not Sid Meier personally.

No, Sid definitely did make Magic: The Gathering. It was his final game at Microprose.

Did a quick check at Gamespot' Sid Legacy page and sure enough...

http://www.gamespot.com/features/sidlegacy/gather.html

	01-08-2001 20:14									#29
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quote: Originally posted by Alantus Would be shocked if Poptop was involved in that case.

They said they were considering it in Computer Games Magazine.

	01-08-2001 21:43									#30
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PopTop isn't so good. I don't like Railroad Tycoon II and Tropico. RTII has good graphics but it doesn't play like an improvement of the first game. Too many changes and not necessary for the better. Tropico has details in the wrong places, and the attraction wears out really quick.


Yin,

I am pretty sure MicroProse started producing stuff earlier than 1985. I remember they had something called Solo Flight or Final Flight. Can't quite remember which though.

But Sid can't you remember what you have done?