03-08-2001 00:53									#1
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Do any other Apolytoners partake of the only game worthy of mention in the same breath as Civ? If so, let's hear from you.

Who do you always buy, how do you play.....? If you're really lucky I'll dig out my best tips.

	03-08-2001 01:04									#2
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Is that some fruity soccer game?

	03-08-2001 01:09									#3
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"It's addictive, but it's not fun."

Thankfully, I stopped playing before I became addicted.

	03-08-2001 01:17									#4
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I know MarkG is a huge fan. Other than that, I mean, everyone from a football-playing country must have tried some version at one point or another...?

I don't think it's as good as Civ, though. The start of each game is considerably more boring, the learning curve is a bit steep, each game has its long, low, boring periods, it's limited in scope and can't really be modded in a nice way. Great game anyway.

	03-08-2001 01:19									#5
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Why? Me, of course.

I remember talking about the matter with at least Dookie and Kropotkin. Maybe Snapcase too.

It's addictive as hell, the only game I've played as much as Civ2. But especially addictive when you play hotseat against some friends, of course.

With the last one (2000/2001) I've only played in the Spanish and Argentinian championships, and I habven't played enough to win the Champions League yet... I always start with mediocre clubs, so I can say I've built up a champion squad from the scratch...

	03-08-2001 02:06									#6
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Good man. I usually play as Bristol Rovers which isn't so much "mediocre" as "truly dire". Getting them promoted in your first season is a real challenge, particularly as they start without any even remotely decent strikers.

Sneak- it's a fruity soccer game. It's also probably got the most primitive graphics of any million-selling game and is more addictive than a Thai lap-dancer lightly oiled and dipped in crack.

	03-08-2001 03:06									#7
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Canola, olive or peanut?

	03-08-2001 03:33									#8
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I used to play a lot of CM2...used to play with Barcelona and Barcelona B

	03-08-2001 04:01									#9
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Bugs - forum junkie that you are, did you ever cavort around the CM forums? I did, till they banned me...

Haven't played for a while - I never got anywhere with Southampton, but I once made up a team called Clifton City, who I took from the Conference to the first division, starting with a 7,000 seater stadium (called Phil's Basement), no players and 10 grand - I'm quite proud of that one...

My last foray was with FC Copenhagen, but I got bored winning the Danish League every year and then getting consistently stuffed in Europe.

Stranraer was my greatest triumph, but that was with CM2, when these things were a bit easier...

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	03-08-2001 04:29									#10
	CM blows Civ out of the water! Got spare money?

Normally play as Reading which is becoming easier these days. I have 00/01 but haven't really played it yet 'cause I know as soon as I start it'll eat my life and I have too much to do at the moment.

Greatest moment for me was taking James Lambert from Reading to Chelsea in CM2, making him club and England Captain and winning the world cup.

I was Deceptive Pace on the CM3 forums (signature was "Even slower than you think")

	03-08-2001 04:33									#11
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My crowning achievement was in the latest edition to take dover to the premiership and then get offered the job of england manager and then winning the 2010 world cup. havent won the premiership with dover yet but i have won the UEFA cup and the leuge and FA cup for quite a few years. my england reputaion is Worldclass. however i usually play as arsenal and buy martin palermo!!!

	03-08-2001 04:34									#12
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To be honest, I stopped after I sprained a hand punching the chair, after a particularly annoying last-minute goal against me that buggered up my European dreams...

That game is dangerous...

	03-08-2001 05:16									#13
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Interesting - inspired by this thread, I re-installed CM, and played it for the first time in about 5 months.
And quickly realised I couldn't be arsed with the tedium of trawling through the transfer lists, trying various filters, getting promising Yugoslav players and then having work permits denied, and all that arse...

	03-08-2001 07:26									#14
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I've played a lot of Premier Manager games, but I don't think I've treid any CM games yet...

	03-08-2001 08:23									#15
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quote: Originally posted by Bugs ****ing Bunny Good man. I usually play as Bristol Rovers which isn't so much "mediocre" as "truly dire".

Well, in fact I spent three season trying to get Caudal, a real crappy Spanish team, from third divison (second division B) to second division, and then got bored of that game before being able to make it into the first league.

I'll make sure to send you 1000 quid in case you had heard the name of that team before.

	03-08-2001 08:39									#16
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Well, I've played the demo many times. I really like it. I'll order the newest version of game across the pond in the Fall (October, I believe is when 01/02 comes out).

	03-08-2001 11:40									#17
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i've asked several times to have CM-level statistics in Civ....

now lets move this to the correct forum....

	03-08-2001 14:01									#18
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We've already heard anout bringing some CM delights into the world of Civ (we remember your column, Markos ), but what could CM learn from Civilization?

I feel that the sense of building a club an lead it to glory from the very beginning still lacks in CM. So a new kind of game (just an option, for fanatics) could be to start as Real Madrid (FE) chairman in 1902 and manage until nowadays, building your stadium, buying terrains for training grounds as well as top players, etc. In fact, playing this way it wouldn't be unrealistical at all to make an European colossus of Barry Town of Caernarfon or whatever team...

Of course you couldn't play each match from each season, and I realise that this would put CM into a new genre (more strategy than simple soccer manager), but still...

	03-08-2001 14:26									#19
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well, you can sort of build your own team in cm.
in one game i have managed to take a english conference team up to the first division....

but yes, starting with nothing and being the owner as well(making the decisions on all the economics) would be an interesting new game mode

	03-08-2001 15:06									#20
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quote: Originally posted by MarkG in one game i have managed to take a english conference team up to the first division....

That's not totally unrealistic 'cause it might eventually happen in real world... we have a few cases in Spain. Probably you've heard about Numancia, or Extremadura....

But what I take as unrealistic is taking a conference team up to winning the Champions League in, say, seven years... and there are some people that have acomplished so. (I never really played that long... my longest game should be five seasons, I think...)

	03-08-2001 15:19									#21
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well, the game i'm describing was 5 seasons
2 in conference
1 in 3rd division
1 in 2rd division
1 in 1st division
but i was not winning promotion in this last year...

and of course i had an owner who had no problem with loosing several million £ every year

	03-08-2001 19:37									#22
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Mark, you can always edit the game data so that your chairman is less likely to put new funds of his own int the club's finances...

That's one of the great things of CM, the ability to customise almost everything in the game... and probably the most addictive feature too.

	03-08-2001 20:47									#23
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quote: Originally posted by Fiera Mark, you can always edit the game data so that your chairman is less likely to put new funds of his own int the club's finances...

what for? it was the chairman of my dreams

	03-08-2001 22:26									#24
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I could never bring myself to customise. It feels sick and wrong, somehow.

So who are you favourite players?

	04-08-2001 00:14									#25
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quote: Originally posted by MarkG what for? it was the chairman of my dreams

For the sake of realism, of course!!! You know, "play two turns and die of old age" and all that stuff!

	04-08-2001 00:22									#26
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quote: Originally posted by Bugs ****ing Bunny I could never bring myself to customise. It feels sick and wrong, somehow.

Sometimes it feels just right, like when I modify Anelka's attributes to match real life somehow.

quote: So who are you favourite players?

Like I said, the Spanish league is the only one I really know thoroughly. Most goalscoring strikers there are Palermo, Catanha, Kluivert (that's hardly a surprise for anyone here, isn't it?) and Diego Tristán. However, I've found that both Palermo and Catanha's goalscoring skills increase when they play as the only centre forward (I don't like playing with two centre forwards).

A great favorite of mine is Igor Lediakhov (AM C), which you can buy from Sporting Gijón for not too a high price. He's a real crack if you use him as AM C and Free Role. He scores a good bunch of free kicks for season as well.

	06-08-2001 02:37									#27
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I have the latest version 00/01 but its too high a spec to run on my system

	06-08-2001 14:11									#28
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What about FA players? I think Owen and Keane are well worth buying, aren't they?