04-08-2001 02:51									#1
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We've all seen the no-name animated Pharaoh picture. The question is, who is it? Pick a choice, and tell us why.

	04-08-2001 02:58									#2
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Could you post a link, cuz I don't know which pic you're talking about!?!

	04-08-2001 03:01									#3
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Tell me where I can see this infamous picture, and I'll give ya a name.

	04-08-2001 03:31									#4
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quote: Originally posted by Alexander01 We've all seen the no-name animated Pharaoh picture.

I havent. Where is it?

	04-08-2001 03:34									#5
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http://webpages.ursinus.edu/jshuttlesworth/cgw5.gif

	04-08-2001 03:45									#6
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I searched the web, and there have been more then one black Pharaoh :damn!: I'd bet it's Tutankhamen or his father what's his name Amen-something. But I know it's a man. And Cleopatra wasn't black, didn't you see the film?

	04-08-2001 04:02									#7
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quote: [SIZE=1]And Cleopatra wasn't black, didn't you see the film?

Cleopatra was from greece and obviouisly white. But according to Plato (I believe) the old-time Egyptians was black. Not necessarily intense blue-black - probably brighter. But definitely negro race. Perhaps its underlying rasist reasons why people still look at ancient egyptians as golden light-brown - more like present day egyptians. Compare with blue-eyed white european looking Jesus in movies and paintings (obviously false).

King Tut was a short-lived insignificant boy-king at the time. I go for Ramses II/III, or (if female) Hapsepsut.

	08-08-2001 01:05									#8
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Cleo=> no way
remain
Hapsepsut and Ramses
=> Ramses we had in Civ I and there he isn't black
so I go for Hapsepsut(unless Ramses has had to much sun in the last 10 years )

Shade

	08-08-2001 01:19									#9
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Hapsepsut was the first female pharoah, as well as the first (and possibly?) only woman to wear all the regalia of a full male pharoah.

	09-08-2001 00:27									#10
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quote: Originally posted by kassiopeia I searched the web, and there have been more then one black Pharaoh :damn!: I'd bet it's Tutankhamen or his father what's his name Amen-something. But I know it's a man. And Cleopatra wasn't black, didn't you see the film?

Ekhnaton?

	09-08-2001 01:04									#11
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It's obviously female. Look at the chin, mouth etc. My vote goes for Cleo, even though she was descended from Greeks.

	09-08-2001 01:09									#12
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Yes, thanks Ecthelion. Ekhnaton, the first of the "rogue" Pharaoh's who skipped sides from worshipping the traditional gos Ra and Amen to worshipping Aton. He was one of the first rulers to have adopted a monotheistic religion.
I have an impression that Ekhnaton would of been black, but considering the aforementioned facts, he wouldn't be the choice of Firaxis as the Egyptian leader.

	09-08-2001 03:59									#13
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I reckon it is Ramesses II. Who else would they pick for the role of a great Egyptian pharaoh?

	09-08-2001 04:03									#14
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quite a naughty statement for someone who admits he has no clue about history.... there have been many great pharaos, Rich, Ramses would just be one of them, and I'm pretty sur ehe's not even the most famous one...

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If you want to have a famous Pharaoh, you would want Tutankhamen (or Tutankhaton) as the leader. But he wasn't pretty influencial, he's tomb just happened to be one of the rare that weren't raided until archaeologists did it.

	09-08-2001 04:14									#16
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Tutanchmon was just a kid,His reign wasn't even long enough to build him a piramid.poor boy

Shade

	09-08-2001 04:40									#17
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Wrong, Shade. Tutankhamen was a New Kingdom Pharaoh. He lived in the era when Pharaohs were being buried in the Valley of the Kings. Pyramids hadn't been built since the Old Kingdom, centuries, no, millenia earlier!

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then who was the one they found in a little hidden room in the piramids? (damn my brains really start to give up at 2 in the morning,need sleep )
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had some sleep,and went to look it up.
his reign was (supposed) from 1345BC to 1335BC.(18 dynasty)
and he got burried in the valley of kings.

Shade(good night)

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	09-08-2001 06:45									#19
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the chick between ghandi and elizabeth is Joan de Arc and i bet the guy between abe and ghandi is ceaser

	09-08-2001 06:46									#20
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or maybe he's greek

i don't know who the pharoa is. but i think it's a woman

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d_dudy -

The "guy between Abe and Gandhi" has been 100% confirmed (via screenshot) as Alexander the Great, leader of the Greeks.

As for our Anonymous Pharaoh, we can only plead that Firaxis reveal their secrets to us poor mortals.

I think the most likely options are the leaders from CivII, as Firaxis seems to be following original decisions for the most part.

That means that the Pharaoh is either a really butch woman or an effeminate guy. I don't think Cleopatra and Ramses would prefer such descriptions. Maybe it IS Akhenaton ! All the sculptures of him are shaped kind of strange...

I don't know.

	09-08-2001 07:13									#22
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i am so damn sorry. i thought he looked roman and then i remembered that maybe i'd seen his image on a greek diplomacy screen somewhere, he doesn't exactly remind me of the alexander the great from civ 1 OK???

i know i'm right about Joan de Arc, you didn't even comment on that

	09-08-2001 08:10									#23
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Don't be offended, I'm sorry if I seemed "direct."

The animated leaders we have seen:

Abraham Lincoln (American)
Mao Tse-Tung (Chinese)
Elizabeth I (English)
Joan of Arc (French)
Alexander (Greek)
Mohandas Gandhi (Indian)
Hiawatha (Iroquois)
Tokugawa Ieyasu (Japanese)
?Pharaoh? (Egyptian)
Victoria/Catherine/Maria Theresa (Unknown ... is it even used?)

See the Civs included thread for more info.