05-08-2001 08:44									#1
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I just woundered on how many CDs Civ III would be? Will it be on DVD too? I searched on Firaxis' site but didn't found.

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	05-08-2001 09:12									#2
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1 CD. Nice and compact.

	05-08-2001 10:46									#3
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My guess it will take only one CD. The game will just have the same units and videos played over and over and so you do not need to repeat yourself over and over again.

Of course if you buy the Limited Edition it will be two CDs as they have promised to include some things that would take a second cd.

	05-08-2001 10:57									#4
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I vote 1 cd. Mainly because since Firaxis is keeping the system requirements as low as they are (PII 300 I think) they'd probably not expect many people to have a DVD player on their system. I don't have one. But I'd get one to play Civ3.
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	05-08-2001 13:40									#5
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2 Cd's for the limited edition? Isn't it the strategy guide?

	05-08-2001 17:15									#6
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quote: Originally posted by Simpleton I vote 1 cd. Mainly because since Firaxis is keeping the system requirements as low as they are (PII 300 I think) they'd probably not expect many people to have a DVD player on their system.

I still have a P233MHz with 64 Mb so I will be acquiring a whole new system a month or so before Civ3 comes out. A system close to 2Ghz and 256MB should allow for smooth running of the game, with or without DVD.

If a game is on a single DVD would it cost any more than an identical 2 CD game? (Due to production costs, DVD technology royalties etc...)

	05-08-2001 18:37									#7
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I think it's just a little bit more expensive to make a DVD than 2 CD's.

Surely Civ 3 will come in on one CD. I cannot think of anything they can possibly do to take up more than 650MB of data.

	05-08-2001 20:03									#8
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quote: Originally posted by Alex 14 2 Cd's for the limited edition? Isn't it the strategy guide?

quote: We're still working out the final details, but it'll come in a very nice tin with the game, manual, a "Making of Civ III" CD and some other cool stuff

	05-08-2001 22:04									#9
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i can assure you that the normal civ3 disk won't be on DVD...i might be wrong but i don't think so

civ3 requirements (which won't be out till october at earliest)

P2 300 mhz
32 mb ram
100 megs of hard drive space (+50 for swapfile)
4X CD-Rom

emperor: battle for dune's requirements (which came out in june)

single player

P2 400
64 mb ram
16mb video ram
600 mb hard drive space
4x cd-rom

multiplayer (5-8 players)

P3 600
128 mb ram
16 mb video ram
600 mb hard drive space
4x cd-rom
tcp/ip (56k or better)

it came on four CDs, each CD holds 650mb of data...i'm fairly certain that a DVD holds about 4gb of data...i'm not sure about royalties but i think that unless a game is going to require at least three cds then it is cheaper to put it on cd, and if you put it on dvd only about 40% of computers compared to 99.99% of computers with at least cd rom drives (meaning you have just isolated about 60% of the customers)...and that putting it on both cd and dvd is going to be more expensive then just having it on one or the other...i bet the first game on DVD only will be C&C3: Tiberian Dusk or whatever they call it...more than likely it will come out in like 2003 will probably require at least a 1 ghz cpu and tons of hd space...and it would probably take like 6 cds to fit it on

	06-08-2001 05:11									#10
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Probably just 1 CD... That is the gaming standard. I doubt the game will be larger than AoE.

	06-08-2001 09:19									#11
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quote: Originally posted by korn469 i can assure you that the normal civ3 disk won't be on DVD...i might be wrong but i don't think so civ3 requirements (which won't be out till october at earliest) P2 300 mhz 32 mb ram 100 megs of hard drive space (+50 for swapfile) 4X CD-Rom

Two or three month ago in another thread, we were talking about how big the game would be. I loaded all of my Civ 1, 2, and TOT games. I think TOT extended was around 85 megs. This game (civ 3) will be in the area of maybe 150 to 200 megs. Remember TOT was animated w/o the leaders.

	06-08-2001 09:43									#12
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quote: Originally posted by joseph1944 Two or three month ago in another thread, we were talking about how big the game would be. I loaded all of my Civ 1, 2, and TOT games. I think TOT extended was around 85 megs. This game (civ 3) will be in the area of maybe 150 to 200 megs. Remember TOT was animated w/o the leaders.

Yeah but what was SMAC?

That would be a more realistic comparison as it is a newer game by the same company that is releasing Civ III.


The other thing is that what your loading on your hard drive is different than what is on the CD, there are still all the movies and such that you don't load and take up cd space. I still only think one cd, but just adding some food for thought.

	06-08-2001 09:47									#13
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joseph1944

that is the requirements off of the infogrames civ3 website, which DanM from firaxis pretty much backed up when he posted in the release date thread that civ3 needed a middle of the road p2 and that he didn't think the requirements were too high...

i still know that civ3 with come on CD (probably just one); and i doubt that in this release of civ3 that it will come on DVD

wait to Civ3:Extra Super Special Uber Edition Volume 2 which will probably come on dvd in a jewel case made out of real jewels

	06-08-2001 10:02									#14
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quote: Originally posted by korn469 joseph1944 wait to Civ3:Extra Super Special Uber Edition Volume 2 which will probably come on dvd in a jewel case made out of real jewels

I will buy this version for sure.
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