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Well start from the beginning. Can also have private messages to other leaders here, else the whole Council automaticly hears. The council is usually Virtual these days. Can have faction representives to speak instead of the leader. so now, lets get ready to rumble!!!!!
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Bergen, Norway
Feb 2001 time: 06:15
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[OOC: Okay, now... Lal is responding to a private message from Roze (which I received in the form of a private message from Argonaut a few days ago...) Since I'm going to post the response here, I thought I should include the message I'm responding to, since it hasn't been posted in public before. (Technically, I guess I should ask Argonaut first, but I see no reason why this shouldn't be posted and I'm assuming it was only sent to me in private because there was no game thread to post it in at that time. -You can bonk me in the head if I'm wrong! )
Anyway, here goes... (end OOC) ]
quote: Private Message
To: Commissioner Lal
From: Datajack Roze
I feel it is important that I speak with you Pravin. As you are, I am sure, aware, I have decided to once again run for the office of Planetary Governor.
First, let me assure you that it is not do to a grievance I have with you. I have always respected your leadership ability and you have not failed us yet in your role of Governor. But I also see nothing wrong with a different voice representing the people for a time. I only have a problem when that different voice is the likes of Nwabudike Morgan.
We cannot allow such a man to return to the office of Planetary Governor, and the only way we can assure this is by having the Chiron Alliance providing a single, and unified front, backing a single candidate.
I do not believe myself more deserving of this position, but examine our political situation. If you run as the Chiron Alliance candidate, the Believers, Spartans and Hive will certainly unite their vote against us. The University is highly likely to vote for Morgan, as is the Cult if they want further support in their war effort. We would have to unite the entire Alliance PLUS Foreman Domai to even stand a chance. Most likely, it will result in a draw (if not defeat) and Morgan, as Governor, will retain.
However, if I were to run as the Alliance candidate, I can possibly persuade others to join our cause, if not abstain for supporting Morgan. I'm sure, as wise as you are, you see the greater good comes from the Chiron Alliance holding the Governership rather than risking the position unnecessary.
I will be speaking with the other Alliance leaders, as well as various other faction leaders. I do hope Pravin, that you can support my bid and do what is best for the Alliance at this time.
Your friend,
Roze
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[Note: Lal has already sent a preliminary response in which he basically said that he didn't hold it against her and that there was some sense in what she said, but he needed to think about it for a few days... (He is Roze's friend and tries not to slam the door too hard...) Anyway, here comes the official response... ]
Private Message
From: Commissioner Lal
To: Datajack Roze
Dear Roze
In regards to the matter of your seeking office as Planetary Governor... as I have stated before, I will not hold this against you. I also see that there is some sense in what you say. However, I am unable to support your candidacy, as doing so would send the wrong kind of signal to the people of this world. If I was to stand down now and support your campaign, it would be seen by many as an indication of my being more concerned with preserving the power of the Chiron Alliance than enforcing the U.N. Charter. Not only would this give my critics a stick to beat me with, but we might quite possibly end up destroying everything we're trying to protect. No offense taken, my friend, but if I have to choose between ruining the integrity of the Peacekeeping Forces or risking another term with Morgan as Planetary Governor, then I shall have to take my chances with Morgan. I can not be seen as serving an alliance which half the people on this planet see as their enemy.
Commissioner Pravin Lal
U.N. Peacekeeping Forces
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Argonaut
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Toronto
Mar 1999 time: 05:15
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OOC: I was kind of trying to do some secret political manuevering actually Guardian, but I guess you ruined THAT for me, didn't ya? Oh well, so much for my machiavellian plan to take over the world.....oops....
Private Message : Enhanced Encyrption
To: Comissoner Pravin Lal
From: Datajack Sinder Roze
I am sorry you feel that way Pravin. While I see some sense in what you say, I cannot help but notice that you put your own concerns in front of supporting your friends.
I intend to continue with my campaign, and will not restrain myself from seeking true friends from within the alliance. I had hoped we could have provided a stable government with a decisive victory. It appears that you have made this impossible.
Dissappointed,
Roze
Private Message : Enhanced Encryption
To: Captain Svensgaard, Lady Deirdre, Prime Function Aki Zeta-Five
From: Datajack Roze
Greetings friends,
As you may be aware, I have been attempting to persuade Comissoner Lal to drop his candidacy for Planetary Governor, and side with me, ensuring a defeat of Morgan in the coming election. The Comissoner has refused to lend his support, and I fear that some of what Chairman Yang has been saying is true. He seems himself as the 'true' and rightful leader of humanity.
While, I hope, that I am merely misjudging him, and that his decision does not indicate his greater intent, I have chosen to still run for office, despite the potential hazard it creates.
I have spoken with some faction leaders outside of the Alliance, and have begun open and peaceable discussions with several. However, none are the lease bit content to see Lal in office. That is why I seek your support. To prevent the likes of Morgan from retaining, so that someone more trustworthy holds the office.
Lal cannot win this election. If we were all to throw our votes behind him, the rest of Chiron would surely unite against us and vote us down. That is why I ask for your support, one who has not alienated other leaders on Planet, but can still keep our own values at heart.
Please, consider what I have said. It appears much more depends on this election than any had thought possible.
Roze
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Guardian
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Bergen, Norway
Feb 2001 time: 06:15
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quote: Originally posted by Argonaut
Private Message : Enhanced Encyrption
To: Comissoner Pravin Lal
From: Datajack Sinder Roze
I am sorry you feel that way Pravin. While I see some sense in what you say, I cannot help but notice that you put your own concerns in front of supporting your friends.
I intend to continue with my campaign, and will not restrain myself from seeking true friends from within the alliance. I had hoped we could have provided a stable government with a decisive victory. It appears that you have made this impossible.
Dissappointed,
Roze
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Private Message : Enhanced Encryption
From: Commissioner Pravin Lal
To: Datajack Sinder Roze
Well, I'm sorry to have disappointed you as that was certainly not my intention.
Seriously though, in regards to my "putting my own concerns in front of supporting my friends", I'm sorry, but I really don't have much choice in a matter like this. If, as a Peacekeeper, I didn't at least TRY to maintain some kind of neutrality in interfactional matters, then why should I even be a Peacekeeper in the first place? If we were to engage in political power play on behalf of an alliance - any alliance - then we might as well disband the Peacekeeping Forces and go be Pirates or Spartans instead. Well, that's not what we're here to do, and if this means I can't be your friend, then I guess I never should have been. I'm sorry to say, but I really thought you knew me better...
Pravin
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Kassiopeia
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Jyväskylä, Finland
Jul 2001 time: 07:15
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General Message
From: Sister Miriam Godwinson
To: Planetary Council
I am here to present to the Council the Believer reprentative to the Planetary Council, Father Theodore Deacon. He will answer all questions and has my authorities concering Believer foreign affairs, and will stay permanently as of today at the Planetary Council base. Discuss with him like with me. As much as I would of preferred attending the Council personally, I have currently very pressing matters that need my imminent attention. However, when the election for Governor begins, I will tend to the Council myself until that matter has been settled with.
Sister Miriam Godwinson
General Message
From: Father Theodore Deacon
To: Planetary Council
I am glad to be here, and hope that we can work together to make this world a better place.
I would like to thank all Council members, especially Datajack Sinder Roze, for issuing all possible humanitarian aid to the Western Continent.
But at the same time I remind this Council that an unauthorized intrusion by the military forces of any faction will be considered as a provocative action, barring situations where negotiations have been held beforehand. Also, any military support to the Cult, or any attempts to stop Believer military units on a task authorized by the Believer Military Command, will be considered an act of war.
[OOC: OK. here goes, I think everyone can guess what those imminent matters are
As far as I know we can communicate via the PM system even if there is a proper game thread, just to make it easier. At least I find it somewhat difficult to "not" know something. That is why I have not even in real life read those PM's of Roze and Lal. Just for the sake of simplicity.]
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Kassiopeia
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Jyväskylä, Finland
Jul 2001 time: 07:15
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General Message
From: Father Theodore Deacon
To: Planetary Council
To leave no room for doubt, Sister Miriam and the Crusade Committee wish to state that:
"Standard combat conditions"
- Units hostile to each other are engaging each other
- The battle is not taking place inside or in the immediate vicinity (Less then three kilometres, ca. two Imperial miles) of a Believing base
- A substantial number of innocent citizens are not under the direct threat of termination
- The unit hostile to the Believers is not committing an atrocity, that is, if someone uses Gas on us, we will certainly retaliate.
If Miss Fuentes or any other Council member would like to suggest some more conditions for the term, we could maybe utilize it in further interfactional conferences.
General Message
From: Father Theodore Deacon
To: Spartan Representative Karl Solo
I would personally like to welcome you to the Council, Mister Solo, and I therefore invite you to a dinner at the Believer Embassy at Planetary Council Base, tomorrow evening 1900 local time. Any members of your family or staff are also welcome.
General Message
From: Father Theodore Deacon
To: CEO Nwabudike Morgan
Sister Miriam has received your invitation and accepted it. She is currently deciding on a proper representative to handle the negotiatons.
She would also wish to state, that
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CEO, I wish that no further preparations for these negotiations are made until we have (re-)elected a Planetary Governor, and that the negotiations will be held at the headquarters of the (new) Planetary Governor. Of course, Cha Dawn must also voice his opinion about this meeting. |
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Jul 2000 time: 05:15
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quote: Originally posted by Argonaut
The Data Angels have decided that current humanitarian efforts have not been fully sufficient to relieve the suffering of civillians within the current warring factions of the Cult of Planet and the Lords Believers.
As a result, we will be aiding the UN in their efforts by funding relief efforts within the territory of the Lord's Believers, and aiding those displaced in the war. Food, shelter and clothing will be shipped to "safe" Believer bases where Data Angel aid officials with coordinate with Believing volunteers to look after those displaced by the conflict.
This will help relieve some suffering, and ease demands on the U.N.'s strained relief funds. |
The University's Public Ministry Responds-
A noble effort, no doubt, but, dear council, do you not realize that people should be able to war with each other without receiving unwanted 'aid' from others?
This brings the question into play, should we let people war without interference, or should we interfere and attempt to end the war?
The University believes that we should allow the war to play out naturally and allow the weak of each faction to die off and be eliminated.
-Stefan Amaris-Zeevico
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Guardian
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Bergen, Norway
Feb 2001 time: 06:15
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*Incoming transmission*
*This time, Fuentes is just taking a sip of water as the University's Ambassador Davidson-Splertrovsky addresses the council. When she hears the matters he is raising before the council, the water goes down all wrong and the PK representative is suddenly in serious trouble... as she coughs, chokes and gags, she becomes aware all of a sudden that she is being watched... she turns your way with a look of anguish on her face, then regains her composure a little and hurriedly makes some hand gestures indicating that she will be back. She gets up and rushes out of the picture, then almost immediately reappears, still coughing. After pointing in the direction of the University's representative, she makes another gesture, indicating a "MAD SCIENTIST!". Then she disappears again. The image of her empty chair fades and is replaced by the emblem of the Peacekeepers...*
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Argonaut
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Toronto
Mar 1999 time: 05:15
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OOC: No harm, no fowl Guardian. I was just trying to use our fancy new forum's features to try something new. At the same time, it won't really work cause we still have non-player controlled factions going. So it's all good 
As for what Roze had to say to other Alliance leaders, what can I say? She's concerned. Lal has basically claimed that the U.N. is the rightful leader of the Council, and the only one capable of upholding the Charter. More on that later....... 
General Message
From: Data Angel Ambassador Rebecca Katt
To: Planetary Council
First, we would like to explain that our aid agreement with the Believer's was agreed to in private between Sister Miriam and Datjack Roze. The Data Angels were not willing to interfere with a situation that was not there problem, but saw an opportunity to help.
Also, we will not be hindering, or helping, the course of the current conflict. We will only seek to relieve the suffering of civillians displaced by the war.
Secondly, I move that the Council ignore the University Ambassador's questions regarding Cyborgs and Drones. This is nothing more than another attempt to excuse his faction's governments continued persecution of Cybernetic Citizen. Now we find that he has expanded his persecution to include Drones, despite his reasonings only really applying to Cyborgs.
But Ambassador, I do wish to ask you this. You give as a reason for disciminating against your own people, that they are "not genetically engineered". Does that mean that a naturally conceived and born human is now inferior. I assure you Ambassador, that in Data Angel territory, Genetically Engineered citizens make up a small percentage of our population base. And I assure you that we are by no means inferior to you.
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Argonaut
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Toronto
Mar 1999 time: 05:15
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Private Message : Enhanced Encryption
To: Comissoner Pravin Lal
From: Datajack Roze
Pravin,
I am speaking with you again, cause more and more I find myself disturbed and upset by your reasons for continuing with your own campaign.
You said that "If I was to stand down now and support your campaign, it would be seen by many as an indication of my being more concerned with preserving the power of the Chiron Alliance than enforcing the U.N. Charter". Yet, why am I not capable of enforcing and preserving that charter?
From the day Svensgaard introduced us after Planetfall, I have supported you in everyway I can in order to preserve that charter. When we established the Planetary Council, I voted for you to ensure the sanctity of the Charter and to protect human decency. This does not mean you owe me anything, but I wish you to understand why I am upset.
From the beginning, my beliefs and values were persecuted by both Morgan Industries and the University of Planet. The first Data Angels attempted to seperate peaceably, but neither Zakharov nor Morgan would allow it and we had to fight for our independance, and thank what ever God you believe in, we succeeded.
I did not lead this people into the wastes of Planet for personal glory. We fled together to protect what we believed was right, and the Data Angels chose me to lead. And since then we have fought very hard to protect the values which we believe differ us from those who persecuted us.
We have also fought hardest to protect others facing persecution. From day one, we supported the Cybernetic Conciousness who had chosen to avoid persecution, like ourselves, by the University. We have defended their right to exist and be treated as equals, when in your own bases they have been treated with disdain and suspicion.
But, despite all this, you see yourself as the only one capable of defending the Charter that we both value and uphold.
Pravin, Planet is a very different place from the world we left. The U.N. holds less importance to many people here than it did on Planet, and even those who were once a part of the U.N. have turned their back on it. Times have changed, we need to change with them.
If you seek to maintain neutrality, then why are you part of the Alliance? I thought you had joined because we all had something in common, to defend what we believed in and find a way to protect humanity on this increasingly hostile Planet. Now, you are willing to turn your back on that Pact because you do not see your allies as worthy of that trust?
This Alliance cannot be treated merely as a defence pact, friends to call on when one of us is under attack. If we cannot stand together when times are good, then I question the purpose of this Alliance at all.
Roze
Head Datajack, Data Angels
Last edited by Argonaut on 14-08-2001 at 05:30
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Argonaut
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Toronto
Mar 1999 time: 05:15
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OOC: Sorry, that little tirade was a bit longer than intended. Oh well, Roze was speaking from the heart!
By the way, are we actually going to start the game thread? There are a lot of non-Planetary Council aspects (and perhaps this Private Messaging regarding elections etc.) that could be covered. GM's? Oh, and will one of you be filling in for Domai? Roze has yet to campaign on that front.
And, Where are you SmacFanatic? I need you!
General Message
To: Colonel Santiago
CC: Faction Leaders
From: Datajack Roze
Colonel,
One minute I find myself enjoying an intelligent and peaceable conversation with you and the next I find you slandering me in the Planetary Council. Perhaps you haven't changed. You seem to be as much of an IOD in the Fungus as our Governor.
Roze
Head Datajack, Data Angels
Last edited by Argonaut on 14-08-2001 at 05:29
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