24-08-2001 18:00									#31
	Re: These are my votes Support Apolyton, buy Civilization 2

quote: Originally posted by kIndal (queria poner Francisco Ibañez pero no se yo si reconocereis a Mortadelo y Filemon como clasicos de la literatura)

Sí, Ibáñez es un voto legítimo, por qué no?

Por cierto, tu lista medieval es muy "muslimana", mientras que la mía es todo lo contrario. Sé nota quién es andaluz y quién no...

	25-08-2001 01:12									#32
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quote: Originally posted by Fiera So? No more votes? Waku, Chris, Marquis?

Yo es que no lo tengo nada claro... Pero en fin haré un esfuerzo, dejame pensarlo.

	25-08-2001 03:10									#33
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1. Ancient / Middle Ages

1.a. Visual Arts:
1.b. Literature: Alfonso X
1.c. Philosophy/Religion: Averroes
1.d. Politics/Military: Trajano
1.e. Science:


2. Rise of the Spanish Empire (circa 1475-1600)

2.a. Visual Arts:
2.b. Literature: Cervantes
2.c. Philosophy/Religion: Cisneros
2.d. Politics/Military: Fernando el Católico
2.e. Science: Nebrija (liguistics is a science)


3. The Golden Century (17th Century)

3.a. Visual Arts: Velázquez
3.b. Literature: Quevedo
3.c. Philosophy/Religion:
3.d. Politics/Military:
3.e. Science:


4. Our dark centuries (18th and 19th Centuries)

4.a. Visual Arts: Goya
4.b. Literature:
4.c. Philosophy/Religion:
4.d. Politics/Military:
4.e. Science:


5. Contemporary (till today)

4.a. Visual Arts:
4.b. Literature: Lorca
4.c. Philosophy/Religion: Franco
4.d. Politics/Military: Juan Carlos I
4.e. Science: Ramón y Cajal

Note that these are those who imo were the most influential, not those I like the most.

I will fill the missing gaps as soon as I make up my mind

	26-08-2001 04:40									#34
	A Mathematician from Cadiz Remove this text

Well, it's clear that we have many problems with a Spanish scientific in XVII... So, Can I suggest Antonio Hugo de Omerique? He was a mathematician from Cadiz (http://www.arrakis.es/~mcj/pres_0.htm), and he was a member of the novatores group: scientifics reformist in the Spanish of laters Austrians. Other member of the novatores group (and candidates for the tittle of spanish scientific in XVII) were:

Juan de Cabriada (http://www.isciii.es/museo/crono/ed/edc2174.html for a little quote)

Juan Caramuel y Lobkowitz (http://www.filosofia.org/aut/vid/fe06.htm, quote XLIX)

PD: Ayer, Sabado, el Madrid perdio.....

	26-08-2001 04:51									#35
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Gaditano and Waku did not know him????? Can't believe it

	26-08-2001 04:59									#36
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quote: Originally posted by Jay Bee Gaditano and Waku did not know him????? Can't believe it

And He has a street with his name in Cadiz....

Here are two more links about "los novatores"

http://www.upm.es/informacion/revis...9-Celebrac.html

http://www.liceus.com/es/aco/lit/01/030201.html

	26-08-2001 14:05									#37
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Omerique? Never heard of him ( )
Why r we so unfair with our past? (Lezo)

quote: Originally posted by yaroslav And He has a street with his name in Cadiz....

I don't think so, his name would ring a bell.
(according to the link the street is in Sanlucar)

In any case he deserve it more than Rocío Jurado.

	28-08-2001 07:59									#38
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Manuel de Falla for arts probably. I like some of those pieces very much, Noche en los Jardines de España and Amor Brujo...