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Bereta_Eder
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Yeah, I noticed that too!
I don;t really know if it's correct yet.
Let's see:
Cleopatra was the descendant of Ptolemeans which were the descendants of Macedonians which were the descendants of the people of the Argos region in Greece.
So she should be more white than that unless the Ptolemeans intermixed with Egyptians...
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Bereta_Eder
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Yep, it's crystal clear!!!
Our voice has been heard!
BTW, The difference in expressions is without doubt two different instances in the spectrum of emotions of a leader in the diplomatic screen.
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tniem
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Hope College
Apr 2000
time: 00:15
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I think the pic of the Egyptian phaorah in the screen shot is of Ramses. I think there is a possibility that Firaxis was still debating which one to use so they made mock art of both.
They decided on Cleopatra. I mean look at that picture not only is the color wrong but featurewise, there isn't a woman to be seen in the pic.
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Zor
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Tyrol
Aug 2001
time: 00:15
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I must say it is a very nice improvement. The first one did look rather um....manly. But I was hoping to see Ramsese.
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Bereta_Eder
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quote:
Originally posted by Osweld
When did you get a chance to meet her?
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Asterix.
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tniem
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Hope College
Apr 2000
time: 00:15
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quote:
Originally posted by Snapcase
Oh, come on, tniem, it's quite clearly the same person in those two screenshots. Since when does Ramses have plucked eyebrows and Liz Taylor makeup? Naw, same face in a less angry stance, made about two shades blander. Historically accurate, probably, but boring as well. Bad choice, Firaxis!
(They should have picked Hatshepsut anyway, much more interesting than this Blancka.) |
Well every depiction of Egyptian leader I have seen have the plucked pointy eyebrows. They all seem to have some degree of femine quality to them in the pics at least.
But your probably right I guess. They just don't in my eyes look all that similar.
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Stefan Härtel
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Eddie's best friend
Jul 1999
time: 06:15
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That Cleo rather looks like a queen from the XXIV or XXV dynasties, or like a queen of Ethiopia at all.
IMHO, the guys at Firaxis should've chosen a different leader in the first place. Of 3,000 years of the Egyptian civilization they chose a) the very last one and b) a ruler who did not even have true impact on the history of her country and was, politcally seen, actually just an object of the delights of people like Julius Caesar and Marcus Antonius (Yes, I know, this is VERY harsh and politically uncorrect).
A female leader is fine, but then, why didn't they choose Hatshepsut? She belonged to the XVIII dynasty that was the most powerfull one in the entire history of Egypt; they could've chosen Tuthmosis I. or III., Amenophis II. or Akhenaton for a change. Of course, Ramses II. does it as well (for a change maybe Ramses III. wouldn't have been bad either).
Fact is that Cleopatra was Greek, thus white, and to go even further, perhaps she followed the Greek ideal of beauty, and this way she must've been pale as chalk because the Greeks didn't really think the same way about color tones as we do-dark-skinned was considered as unattractive, propably because all the slaves and socially lower workers had to work in the sun and thus became a bit darker...
I know this post isn't entirely politcally correct  , but you have to make a point somewhere.
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18-08-2001 02:15
. Is this new Cleopatra "historically correct" or at least better than the old one?
to those of you who complanied!
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