21-08-2001 21:48									#1
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In SMAC, there were landmarks to designate mountains, valleys or whatever significant geographic feature. Has there been any mention of that for Civ3?

	21-08-2001 22:23									#2
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I remember that the list had a mention of naming the geographical features you discover, if thats what you mean. I'm not sure if firaxis is implimenting it, however.

	21-08-2001 22:34									#3
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On the earth map maybe as an option, otherwise, no thanks.

	21-08-2001 22:37									#4
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Yeah, please give us that, I haven't seen such thing since Conquest of the new World, and I really miss it

	25-08-2001 18:45									#5
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La la

	25-08-2001 19:49									#6
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d/p sorry

	25-08-2001 19:49									#7
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quote: Originally posted by BlackStone La la

what's with all the la la's ?

	26-08-2001 04:55									#8
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Current belief is that someone stole BlackStone's login... He received a 50% PCR and ban

Landmarks- good idea, especially for scenarios... Type in a name of a place over that place... Very good idea

	26-08-2001 08:35									#9
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i think that landmarks would be alright for the world map that comes with the game but they would not work with random maps and such. it should also be an option to include landmarks in maps you make yourself.

and the maps should not be flat!

	26-08-2001 10:45									#10
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In SMAC/X it wasn't just about naming different parts of the map, some of the areas had special qualities ie Freshwater Sea each square produced an extra food. I would like to see that kind of thing in CIV3.

	26-08-2001 10:48									#11
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quote: Originally posted by Gasmaske what's with all the la la's ?

I cant figure it out either?

	26-08-2001 13:50									#12
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Don't worry, he is just a dirty little spammer; he seems to have done it to every thread in apolyton. Talking about not having anything better to do with his time...

	26-08-2001 14:06									#13
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quote: In SMAC/X it wasn't just about naming different parts of the map, some of the areas had special qualities ie Freshwater Sea each square produced an extra food. I would like to see that kind of thing in CIV3.

I have read that the editing tools are gonna be "mod maker friendly", but I have not heard mention of this landmark feature, nor seen a screenshot with a landmark. Some have said most of SMAC/X would make it into Civ3, so lets just hope this is one of those included features. It would be a huge boon to scenarios where regions of land are essential but aren't actual cities, such as the West Bank or a DMZ. And if you could reference the area with triggers or events in a scenario "Events.txt" file, that would be that much better..... but now I am wandering into that "Civ4 Wishlist" area...sorry....

	26-08-2001 16:22									#14
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quote: Originally posted by Gasmaske what's with all the la la's ?

I think he is trying to increase his rank from settler.

	26-08-2001 18:54									#15
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Yeah, but he got a 50% PCR and a 1-week ban.

	31-08-2001 18:34									#16
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In addition to the ability to name landmarks (i.e. Sahara Desert) I would also like to be able to set up markers recalling events (i.e. Defeat of the Spanish Armada). I loved that it was an integral part of Conquest of the New World and while it doesn't need to count for points I think it's fun. I always find myself naming things in my head anyways.

	31-08-2001 19:04									#17
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I keep reading about how Firaxis wants to make sure this game is FUN, and allowing us to personalize our games with Landmarks would surely contribute to the replayability and "immersion factor" of Civ3. Lets keep our eyes open for it.

	31-08-2001 19:12									#18
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I'm not so sure that landmarks would help in a game, there nice and in scenarios they would be good, but I don't think it's that important.

	31-08-2001 20:27									#19
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It is purely a cosmetic or something for the 'Giggle Factor' (much like the artisitic, but unnecessary City View). I always put in custom names for cities, so why not mountains, rivers or regions, like in CNW? One of the important things is the ability to turn them off (a toggle?) because you don't want names overprinting units, thus making them harder to identify.

	31-08-2001 20:36									#20
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quote: Originally posted by SITS In SMAC/X it wasn't just about naming different parts of the map, some of the areas had special qualities ie Freshwater Sea each square produced an extra food. I would like to see that kind of thing in CIV3.

IMO, in Civ3 there´s good reason to expand your empire towards the location of a valuable ressource. It´s the same strategy that applied to landmarks in SMAC.

	31-08-2001 20:44									#21
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I like the idea of being able to name mountain ranges, lakes, and so on. It gives a bit more depth to the game and you can even have squabbles in multi-player about names like the Japanese and Korea are having about the Sea of Japan . . . errrr, East Sea. Being able to name landmarks makes those random maps a bit more likeable and interesting. If this option is not in the game I won't cry but it would be nice to see.

	31-08-2001 20:46									#22
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It's an interesting idea, this naming of prominent terrain features. It's good as an optional feature.

	31-08-2001 22:45									#23
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To add landmarks to the game, makes the individual games more personlized...it makes the different worlds more remarkable. In earlier civ games you could only say: I just conquered the "countryname"'s cities "Some city names", with landmarks it would be more remarkable like saying: I just conquered the cities at Apolytonrange