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Well, the Munich Conference of 1905 to decide the fate of the Sudent- er Germany was fairly ineffective. The Italians stormed out of the conference mumbling about how "All Germany is rightfully ours," while the British and French had traffic jam problems as their reprentatives argued about who should rule the Munich sector where the actual conference was, while the factories outside continued shipping their guns to their Italian masters. Oddly enough the Germans themselves were not invited.

Meanwhile, the Austrian Empire has announced that it never really gave up the Yugoslavia area at all, and that it was merely "loaned to the Italians for temporary protection" before. Their army has marched back in and is busy arresting various citizens who may or may not have been too helpful to the "temporary protectors." Also, enrollment in German language courses has gone up by 300% in the Greater Turkey region. Apperantly the youth seem to enthusistically embrace the idea of perhaps getting a job with the new government and perhaps avoiding the labor camps, although the legitimate Turkish government has assured its citizens that there is no cause for alarm.

I will now accept criticism/clarification on my ruling re: Smyrna. Examine it yourself. By all rights the Austrian support should cut, but the letter of the rule is that a unit can't cut support for a move against itself. Despite the fact that this attack on Smyrna is supported, and at least A Arm should do the cutting if A Con can't. Now granted had Smyrna been dislodged its support would have been cut automatically, but since F Aegean Sea supported it, it defintely holds its position. And I suppose the support it makes stands then, by a strict ruling, since A Con can't cut the support of an attack against Con.

Now this doesn't make as much sense as it should, so if somebody can show an exception from the Diplomacy rules, I'd be interested in hearing it (being I don't own them). But the way I understand the rules, the support is not cut.

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Fall 1905

England (Reismark)
A Liverpool HOLD
F London-English Channel
F North Sea SUPPORT F London-English Channel
F Norwegian Sea-Barents Sea
F Norway-St. Petersburg (*bounce*)
F Berlin HOLD
A Kiel-Munich (*bounce*)

Germany (Coug) (-Ber) EOG
A Pru->Mun (*bounce*)

France (El Awrence) (+Rom, +Nap) (2 builds)
F MAO > Spa (sc)
F Bre > Eng (*bounce*)
A Pic > Bel
A Hol S A Pic > Bel
A Bur > Mun (*bounce*)
A Tus > Rom
F Nap S A Tus > Rom

Italy (His Divine Shadow) (-Rom, -Nap, -Tri, +Ber) (2 disbands)
A Rom to Ven
A Mun to Ber
A Sil supports A Mun to Ber
F WMed supports F Eng to MAO
F Eng to MAO
F Iri supports F Eng to MAO

Russia (Chazzy)
A-STP HOLD
A-WAR HOLD
A-UKR>SEV (*bounce*)
F-SEV>BLA (*bounce*)

Austria (RUFFHAUS 8) (+Smy, +Tri, +Con) (3 builds, 2 usable)
A Budapest - Trieste
A Rumania - Bulgaria
A Serbia supports A Rumania - Bulgaria
A Bulgaria - Constantinople
F Aegean Sea supports F Smyrna - hold
F Smyrna supports A Bulgaria - Constantinople (NOT cut)

Turkey (Kurt Reutter) (-Smy, -Con) (2 disbands)
F Bla-Con (*bounce*)
A Arm S A Con-Smy
A Con-Smy (*bounce, dislodged, retreat to: Ank, OTB*)

1) Austria- Could it use all of its builds, Austria would be as big as France, plus it isn't as directly menaced by Italian fleets or a large power like Britain.

2) France- France has finally slipped out of Britain's shadow to emerge as the superior Western power, with its conquest of Southern Italy. While there are undoubetedly hazards ahead, France's sheer size insures that it will most likely be able to weather them. Plus, France's ability to get both Northern & Southern fleets without having to sail around Gibraltar should make it easier for a solo to come about then, say, an Austrian or British one.

3) Britain- Italy has finally broken Britain's cycle of a build a year. And now France has the upper hand in terms of sheer material, should an all-out war come. On the bright side, it doesn't take a seer to see a possible clash in the Med between France & Austria 1-2 years down the line, that could easily waste both countries time as Britain scrambles to secure the entire north.

4) Italy- Most people would be ecstatic if they were told they would lead an empire streching from Tunis to Berlin in only 5 years. Oh well, you know what they say about the stars that burn the brightest going out the most quickly. But I wouldn't count Italy out too soon, who knows what other surprises await.

5) Russia- St Pete's will probably fall next year. And any build to replace that will only come from Austria's good will, perhaps a gift of Rumania. With any luck Austria will remain loyal, and Russia will find some way to manuver itself into a position that is too annoying to disrupt (or crucial to hold a stalemate line), so it can take part in a draw.

6) Turkey- Things look bleak. Austria will most likely finish the job next year, but if not then, then eventually.

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Snowie, about the support situation, I asked you a similar question in reference to a supported move attack on the Germans a few turns ago, and you told me then that even if Unit 1 support Unit 2 supporting an attack by Unit 3, Unit 2's support would be cut if he was attacked despite him being supported by Unit 1. Why the flip-flop? I don't see the difference between that and this...

France... write me, now.

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French Troops March Upon Rome
With Rome and Naples securely in the hold of France, the French general Foch has ordered a garden party and Italian festival to celebrate the liberation of Italy by French troops. Italian people have been invited to cook great amounts of pasta and press many litres of wine in order to celebrate their liberation.

Maréchal Foch stated that French troops will continue to picnick for the year, as the troops stationed in Italy are virtually unoccupied with fighting.

Meanwhile, thousands of Italian girls have welcomed the French soldiers, who are teaching them how they do it in my country.

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Reismark: That decision I'm sure of. Your support is cut if you are attacked, and it doesn't matter if nobody supports your unit or 5 units support it. The one exception is if the attack comes from the territory that the support was against. So

A Mos->Sev

A Sev S A War->Mos
A War->Mos

The support is not cut. However

A Mos->Sev

A Sev S A Bud->Rum
F Bla S A Sev
A Arm S A Sev
A Ukr S A Sev
A Bud->Rum

The support is still cut (your situation).

The situation in Turkey is more like

A Mos->Sev
F Bla S A Mos->Sev

A Sev S A War->Mos
A Ukr S A Sev
A War->Mos

I don't think Sev's support is cut, for the same reason as the first case, despite the added supports.

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