23-08-2001 00:22									#1
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With six months to the release of Civ 3 for Mac (imagine our distress), It is the opinion of I and, well, others that the Civ 3 Mac forum should be initiated now, not after the release. There are many issues relevent to Macs that deserve to be brought up (SR, etc) and it would be convient for us to discuss them in our own forum. Otherwise, we will prepare for battle and invade the Civ 3 general forum

	23-08-2001 01:05									#2
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hahaha "get a real computer"

	23-08-2001 09:39									#3
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Hehe, go ahead and "invade". . there can't be TOO many of you, you archaic freaks. lol j/k

	23-08-2001 10:02									#4
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rofl. Invade? You and what army? There's like what, a grand total of 7 Mac users worldwide?

	23-08-2001 17:52									#5
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I wouldn't doubt our power if I were you. There are at least 8 at Apolyton.

	23-08-2001 17:52									#6
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I wouldn't doubt our power if I were you. There are at least 8 at Apolyton.

	23-08-2001 18:58									#7
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Here's some advice:

Get a lif...uh, I mean...get a PC

	25-08-2001 18:46									#8
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La la

	25-08-2001 18:55									#9
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Please ban the spammer?

	26-08-2001 05:24									#10
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1. He's been banned

2. Why doesn't Dan rename the Civ II mac forum: Civ Games mac Forum. That would solve problems.

	26-08-2001 05:50									#11
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yah, I think a "general" mac discussion forum would be good. Faster communication and all that. Right now the other ones are struggling...a unified area would be the best chance to gather all the new and old mac users to chat about OS specific problems, etc.

and I see some of us are already making this into a mac/pc flamewar before the second post was made. Is that a record?

	26-08-2001 13:39									#12
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Bloody Luddites

Yeah, it may be handy to have a forum for general Mac use of TBS games, but all issues of strategy for all the games should be discussed in their respective threads. A good idea, ja?

	26-08-2001 13:52									#13
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We would be dealing with specific Mac problems. All strategy issues would be dealt with in their respective forums.

	26-08-2001 17:05									#14
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A forum especially for macers would help apple users fix their OS specific problems without several days of waiting. If you have several mac forums, though, the userbase is too spread out to be timely and effective, as it is already small.

C'mon guys, give it at least a shot.

	26-08-2001 20:41									#15
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quote: Originally posted by Zanzin rofl. Invade? You and what army? There's like what, a grand total of 7 Mac users worldwide?

By that logic, there are only 140 people who use pcs. The recent iMac boom would reasonably have an impact on the number of macintosh computer users, especially gamers. Careful when you flame.

	26-08-2001 21:14									#16
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quote: Originally posted by Wiglaf By that logic, there are only 140 people who use pcs. The recent iMac boom would reasonably have an impact on the number of macintosh computer users, especially gamers. Careful when you flame.

We all know that the majority of those who bought an IMac did it because of the shiny colour and the lack of cords hanging out of it, most probably middle-age people and familys with small children. This leads me to the conclusion that even though the amount of Mac users are increasing, the amount of Mac gamers are not increasing by much, now you can flame me

	27-08-2001 04:12									#17
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quote: Originally posted by Wille We all know that the majority of those who bought an IMac did it because of the shiny colour and the lack of cords hanging out of it, most probably middle-age people and familys with small children. This leads me to the conclusion that even though the amount of Mac users are increasing, the amount of Mac gamers are not increasing by much, now you can flame me

Middle aged people and families with children arent gamers


Er, this is the civ forum, not quake, my friend

LOTM

	27-08-2001 05:08									#18
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It is the civ forum, but (correct me if I'm wrong) MOSTLY the type of middle aged people, families with younger children who would buy the IMAC for its pretty colors are NOT the type of people who are actually thinking about game compatibilty as anyone who DOES play a complicated game like civ would do. He wasn't saying that no middle-aged people/young families with young children play games, he was saying that the TYPE of people who would buy an imac for those reasons wouldn't be the type that play civ..

just my $0.02

	27-08-2001 07:20									#19
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people who buy MAC's have (or had, for the MAC users who read this) obsolutaly no concept of gaming or they would have realised that buying a MAC sucks and the would have sprung for a real computer.

	27-08-2001 07:33									#20
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quote: Originally posted by Wille We all know that the majority of those who bought an IMac did it because of the shiny colour and the lack of cords hanging out of it, most probably middle-age people and familys with small children.

Mac:

Middle-Aged
And
Children

Mac users aren't useful to society. And do you ever notice how there are thousands more iMacs on tv shows than in actual use?

	27-08-2001 07:38									#21
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quote: Originally posted by isaac brock Mac: Middle-Aged And Children Mac users aren't useful to society. And do you ever notice how there are thousands more iMacs on tv shows than in actual use?

ha ha. iMacs are the VW Beetles of the computer world.

	27-08-2001 13:53									#22
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quote: Originally posted by jerkwaterbox people who buy MAC's have (or had, for the MAC users who read this) obsolutaly no concept of gaming or they would have realised that buying a MAC sucks and the would have sprung for a real computer.

When one examines such issues as speed and ease-of-use then Macs compare quite favorably to PCs. But we won't examine those issues. Suffice to say that Windows had a much better marketing strategy than Macs in the early to middle '90s. In ten years there will be more Macs than PCs (pardon my optimism).

	27-08-2001 14:19									#23
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In ten years there will be more Macs than PCs (pardon my optimism).

I can't see that happening, PCs are far too mainstream. You've got more chance of replacing windows as the standard PC OS.

	27-08-2001 15:18									#24
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Hey, I work on a Mac...

...but I PLAY on a PC!

	27-08-2001 15:20									#25
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Hexagonian, thats my point, Mac is for work and PC is for games, why should this change?

	27-08-2001 15:42									#26
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I don't believe it will...

5-7 years ago, I would of been one to say that Mac were superior, mainly due to their simple learning curve (Heck, my boss bought us Apple computers in the 80s - I was a complete computer-illiterate then, and after looking at how PCs were set up with the DOS platform, I'm glad that I didn't have to learn on that!!!) But Windows has really caught up in that department - to the point that the operating systems both have the same feel to them.

When I bought my home computer, I never even considered a Mac. The industry is so geared to PCs now, its not funny. The one area that the Mac had the advantage (graphics creation and manipulation) is almost non-existant today.

It's a PC world!!

	27-08-2001 15:58									#27
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quote: Originally posted by hexagonian It's a PC world!!

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!

	27-08-2001 15:59									#28
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yes it is funny the onesideednesss of the pc vs mac struggle and yes 15 years ago macs were better, that changed with win95 now it pcs for a long time

	27-08-2001 15:59									#29
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Admiral, its the truth, wou will learn to handle it

	28-08-2001 02:43									#30
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Woah...you all need to chill...

quote: people who buy MAC's have (or had, for the MAC users who read this) obsolutaly no concept of gaming or they would have realised that buying a MAC sucks and the would have sprung for a real computer.

The issue at hand is not whether macs or pcs suck, it is simply whether or not there should be a new mac forum on apolyton. For the love of God, what's all this "macs suck, pcs suck" business? Grow up, people. (for the record, admiral has been very well contained )

Is there an opinion from the admins or mac mods?