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Hey Osweld, look on the bright side. I've got digital cable which carries this channel called HBO zone which shows a lot of independent films from Canada. I never realized Toronto had such an good gay independent film scene. Also, once you guys legalize pot you can expect alot of business from America to come your way.
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To find the Northwest Passage
Aug 2001
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Originally posted by Chronus
As I similarily asked before, do you really have to believe everything marketing/propaganda and money tell you??? If you are suckered a couple of times ... you have my sympathy. If you are constantly being suckered ... then that's YOUR fault. Take some responsibility for yourself! Speaking of hypocritical . . . see the next quote.
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 I don't know. Corporations in all countries spend billions of dollars on advertising because they know it influences our purchasing decisions. In some cases, the amount of advertising is so extensive that we may not have a choice.
Think about how often you see advertising, for say Coke, in a given day. How many TV ads, billbords, store signs, coke machine ads, would you see? All of these ads are saying the same thing: drink Coke, Coke is good.
Let's say you see 20 Coke ads per day, and that's probably a conservative estimate. That's about 7,300 Coke ads a year, 73,000 in a decade.
I would argue that scale of advertising effectively brainwashes us. Coke is sugar water with no healthy benefits, but how many of us would say Coke is bad for us. We don't say that because we are bombarded with Coke is good messages.
Or try publshing an ad saying coke is just sugar-water and it rots your teeth. No publisher is going to touch that ad.
Imagine if instead of saying Coke is god, the ads said Communism is good. I would bet that we would all be good little communists.
Is this an example of Evil Americans pushing their culture down our throats. Definitely not. All corporations do it, whether it is coke, Benetton (Italy?), Addidas (German). But to deny the effects of mass marketing is to deny modern life.
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Tingkai: If seeing a couple little billboards can brainwash you, then I feel very sorry for you.
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The problem with puting communism into practise is that it puts too much power into too little people. Of course, democratic government would mean much less chance of corruption, but on countries like Argentina (here), people who don't work and get 'paid' would be a lot. As always, the best would be something in between....
As for the implementation of communism, i think that in the far future, robots could be put in charge of everyhing, and if we have people not having to to do any work, (note, "not having to do", not "not doing") then we could live as closto communism, and as close to a 'perfect' society as possible.
of course, this is open to many flaws, mainly the fact that there would need to be a kind of 'censorship' to prevent people to destroy the sistem...
I think that the thread has gone too far from it's original topic...
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Tingkai
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To find the Northwest Passage
Aug 2001
time: 13:15
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Originally posted by Sabre2th
Tingkai: If seeing a couple little billboards can brainwash you, then I feel very sorry for you. |
Hate to tell ya, I guess you are going to be feeling sorry for yourself then cause it's not a couple of billboards. All of us face a constant barrage of advertising telling us that something or other is good. We are all affected by it, usually at a subconscious level. It is not like you see an ad and go "oh, I want to buy that product." Instead, when a person wants something to drink, they think of Coke.
As I said, this is just a fact of life. There's no way to avoid it, unless you want to isolate yourself from the modern world. But there's no point denying it either.
The interesting thing about Civ3 is that it recognizes that people's choices are influenced by outside factors.
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Originally posted by TechWins
Well, actually there is it's called self-control. If you lack that you may not be able to avoid it but if you possess that trait it might still be difficult to avoid it but you have the capability to avoid it. |
Exactly.
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Tingkai
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To find the Northwest Passage
Aug 2001
time: 13:15
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Originally posted by Saddam
Nationalism is simply pride of a citizen towards his country. Never heard of a 'Nationalist' Government.
They should have put Fascism in its place! But we can always Mod it  |
I think the Civ designers wanted Fundamentalism to cover a more diverse range of governments than just religious types. The definition of Fund. in ToT is that it is "usually" religious whereas Oxford dictionary says Fund. is specific to religion. The broader definition taken by the Civ designers means that Fascism could be included as a Fund. gov't.
Anyway, Saddam raises the point that we could create a mod pack with Fascism in it.
What would be the characteristics of a Fascist government? How would it differ, in terms of game play, from the other forms of government?
And on an OT note: Techwins wrote: "In fact, I have drinken a soda pop of any kind since January 27, 2001. Nor have I drinken coffee or tea. I won't be drinking another one until January 28, 2001."
Did you mean to say that you stopped drinking pop, coffee, and tea for a single day?
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02-09-2001 01:53
. Did I not point out that is not a government, rather it is an advance!
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