24-08-2001 00:58									#1
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ok if im building a wonder and i have a large amount of sheilds (lets say 100), then another civ builds the same wonder ahead of me, i have 100 shields leftover, no problem, except theres no large things to build, what can i do with my sheilds? should i just waste them or is there a way i could save them for use later?

i think you should have a either city/nation sheild bank where you can save sheilds and use them later.

is something like this going to be included in civ3 or will i just have to suffer?
or could it be included in an expansion pack..

	24-08-2001 01:00									#2
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Shield micromanagement is an important part of the game. I hope Civ3 doesn't reduce the need for it.

In other words, ancient: suffer!

	24-08-2001 01:06									#3
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no. sheilds are basically a percentage of what your building.

IMHO you shouldnt even be able to switch and keep shields.

units maybe, but when you change from the statue of liberty to leonardo's workshop, or a bank to a university, it's a little odd.

and you shouldnt be able to save shields.

	24-08-2001 01:12									#4
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ermm no fun.. it should be an option..

	24-08-2001 02:54									#5
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Well, we know there aren't going to be trade caravans to help construct a wonder, but it would be nice if there were something like a chain-gang unit that you could send from one city to help build something in another so that you would have an option other than completing wonders with cash. I don't think you should be able to switch wonders if you get beat building it but in that case there should be some feasible way to help insure against massive shield loss.

Yeah, I like the chain-gang unit idea

	24-08-2001 02:57									#6
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blah @ options.

i dont wanna see a click-fest in the game start up menu.

	24-08-2001 03:05									#7
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blah @ you

	24-08-2001 03:52									#8
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quote: Originally posted by UberKruX units maybe, but when you change from the statue of liberty to leonardo's workshop, or a bank to a university, it's a little odd.

I can just imagine them switching production at the last minute and Leonardo working in the statue's head!

	24-08-2001 04:47									#9
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Capitalization in Civ 2 saves shields, but you lose food.

	24-08-2001 05:55									#10
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capitialization makes you loose food?

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no it doesn't.

	24-08-2001 06:48									#11
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quote: Originally posted by UberKruX i dont wanna see a click-fest in the game start up menu.

Why the hell wouldn't you want a clickfest? I for one am willing to click through 15 screens if that's what it takes to micromanage my game. Customizing is one of the best features

	24-08-2001 08:42									#12
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quote: Originally posted by isaac brock Why the hell wouldn't you want a clickfest? I for one am willing to click through 15 screens if that's what it takes to micromanage my game. Customizing is one of the best features

I think UberKruX doesn't want options just so he has something to moan about later.

	24-08-2001 11:05									#13
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If you look closely at the new screenshots you can see some cities are producing "wealth." It seems that a player is allowed to convert excess shields into money early in the game.

	24-08-2001 11:21									#14
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I guess in Civ 3 you can then use the money to *buy* the wonder you are building faster than just building in one city.

A unit to help production of a wonder would be fairly useful though...

	24-08-2001 11:42									#15
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quote: Originally posted by ancient ok if im building a wonder and i have a large amount of sheilds (lets say 100), then another civ builds the same wonder ahead of me, i have 100 shields leftover, no problem, except theres no large things to build, what can i do with my sheilds? should i just waste them or is there a way i could save them for use later? is something like this going to be included in civ3 or will i just have to suffer?

You could work on Capitalization if you have it. And if you don't change it, the shields will just pile up until you change it to another wonder/spaceship part.

And even if you clicked on the Change button in the city menu, but there are no options available, you can click on Auto, then Cancel to get out of the Change menu(little cheat).

In other words, wait.

	24-08-2001 23:46									#16
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ancient: in Civ2, you just keep building the wonder, and switch when a new wonder becomes available. (Although in Civ2, you should be using caravans/freights for most of the building)

Civ3- will this still be available who knows?

BTW
I don't think you get any money for shields already in your build box, when you switch to Capitalization in Civ2.

	25-08-2001 05:11									#17
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well, AFAIK, you can send a great leader to a city to form a military academy, or whatever that wonder is that makes leaders.

	25-08-2001 10:12									#18
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quote: Originally posted by isaac brock well, AFAIK, you can send a great leader to a city to form a military academy, or whatever that wonder is that makes leaders.

i think he is right