07-01-2001 21:35									#1
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Hello

How much tech do you usually get with deity in every possible way (develop, exhange, find, steal, GL, tribute, philosophy extra-advance) until 1 AD? My record is 22 if I a remember correctly, 18 is normal, 14 satisfactory.

Kristjan

	08-01-2001 00:40									#2
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Deity?

7-8...

	08-01-2001 06:59									#3
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if i'm playing agresivley, then
25 record
13 normal
7 ok

if i'm playing more passivley, then
18 record
12 normal
9 ok

	10-01-2001 13:32									#4
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In my last game (which was my best result, though not necessarily the most techs by a given date) I had 20.

	10-01-2001 14:45									#5
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I had 19 in a game. In my latest and best game I had fewer..

	10-01-2001 19:31									#6
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30 is not uncommon, I've had more

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	11-01-2001 16:08									#7
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Interesting question that I have never previously contemplated: choosing two games on my HDD at 'random'
ICS on Giga map 22 techs
OCC #21 - no huts, no AI 9 techs
I have no concept of what a 'record' might be, but it is unlikely that I can beat the goblins ... way to go Rib!


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	11-01-2001 17:18									#8
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SG, I had 10 in OCC#21, but OCC#22 is bound to provide new records (not a fair comparison of course, but still ).

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[This message has been edited by Ribannah (edited January 11, 2001).]

	18-01-2001 06:23									#10
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Deity- Between 12 and 35, depending upon how intent you are to rack up techs.

Really, one should pick a course of action and take those tech, ignoring the rest. IF you find yourself with a couple nearby neighbors and you end up with Monotheism before they get Writing, take after them and kill them with Crusaders. Use the techs you turn up in huts and make them your guiding course. Sometimes you find yourself a trade driven Republic that takes in 300 gold per turn by 350 AD. Sometimes your a mad tyrant stealing and conquering every square foot of the earth, this because you got Mono or Chivary and decided not to waste the technology.

Mind you, this is only on SP. MP is different.

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	18-01-2001 10:19									#11
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28 is my record and that is alot of tech i will have to pursue this one more vigorously..... yes i agree on the early tech dictating your plans.....

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In my latest game I got six free techs, which is probably two more than I'd ever gotten before, and wound up with 25 total by 1 AD, almost certainly a personal best.

	19-02-2001 07:19									#13
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About 80 in OCC #23

	19-02-2001 18:32									#14
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My latest empire just turned Democracy in 3250 BC - missed 3450 BC by a hair.

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	19-02-2001 19:50									#15
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Which game are you playing, Rib?
Is it some kind of civ22222222 that Ming gave you as a gift when you became a PRINCESS?

	19-02-2001 21:24									#16
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That sounds a bit unusual. I suspect the magic reload key.

The old trick was to hut hunt, keeping your science at zero. So when you got philosophy you wouldn't get your freebie then. Reset on huts so you wouldn't get invention too early. Get all the prereqs for demo, get invention, turn on your science % and get to select demo as the freebie.

Other that a similar technique, I find this hard to believe.

Please let us know the methodology you used, I'd be very interested.


RAH

	20-02-2001 06:25									#17
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Yes Rah, that's the way, and playing on a giga map makes it real easy, no reloads were necessary (except for a few thousand times Veii - it's OCC#23, variation 1).

I also used another old trick (see Solo's description) to delay the discovery of Invention.

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	26-02-2001 16:33									#18
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In my recent game I had ZERO techs by 1AD (except roads, mining and irrigation of course)

I was trying the 'Wait for Jesus'-challenge where you put your two settlers to sleep until 1AD and then build your first city!

Btw, it's a very fun challenge and not so difficult as one might think.. those AI civs are VERY sympathetic for your pathetic state and are very generous at giving out their techs. With ICS strat I reached supreme at 1800AD and are heading to conquer the whole world!
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