26-08-2001 13:39									#1
	Map Needed Support Apolyton, buy Galactic Civilizations: Deluxe Edition

Hi folks, I desperately () need a map. It's frontiers should be in the west Baghdad, or better the shore of the Euphrates parallel to Baghdad (so the city can be placed), in the east Delhi (again leaving room for the city). In the north, it should go as far as the Syr Darya river, and in the south it should touch the Persian Gulf (down to ~ Musqat, Oman).
If someone has good acess to historical topographical and economical maps of the ~9th, 10th and 11th century AD, that's the time it should fit into.
Thanks in advance.

	26-08-2001 14:00									#2
	Tired of ads?

Have you seen the "ancient maps" thread in the Spanish Forum? Haven´t checked the links yet, but perhaps they are helpful...

	26-08-2001 14:17									#3
	Suffering from ads?

I meant Civ2 maps
I've no lack of historical maps

	26-08-2001 16:43									#4
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go too http://gene.wins.uva.nl/~jvermeir/c.../maps/index.htm
i hope this helps

	26-08-2001 16:59									#5
	Enter the AD-FREE zone

I once downloaded the entire collection, and none of the middle eastern maps really do suit my needs. I wouldn't have posted here if I wouldn't really be sure there was no map that complies with the one I need
If there's anybody who thinks he can draw this (it's very tough) that'd really be great.

	27-08-2001 04:45									#6
	Suffering from ads?

Altho I don't have a graphics software to edit colors, I can produce a bitmap that could be used in Mercator's MapEdit program. I can custom make the bitmap to the civ map size and extents you need, and provide a topographic image from which to visually derive terrain. The bitmap would be colored by ecological regions, approximating vegetation types. (When not moonlighting as a world conqueror, I earn my keep as a geographer) If you are interested, or have a volunteer to do the work, I'll be happy to provide the images.

	27-08-2001 11:27									#7
	Lose 30 kilos (of popups)

That's great! I haven't worked with that mapedit program yet though, so I may first have to try it out.

	28-08-2001 18:35									#8
	Inflate your Upload Space

Here is a sample image of the area you describe:

Attachment: hartel1.jpg
This has been downloaded 16 time(s).

	28-08-2001 18:36									#9
	Tired of ads?

And general vegetation:

Attachment: hartel2.jpg
This has been downloaded 16 time(s).

	28-08-2001 18:41									#10
	Got spare money?

The elevation/veg image colors and shades should be self-apparent.

For the second image,
Palest yellow = desert and shrub
darker yellow = grasslands
orange = montane grasslands
light green = mixed forests
dark green = coniferous forests
dark gray = tropical broadleaf forest or open woodlands
spotted gray = marsh
white = rock, ice, other inhospitable areas
blue = water, of course

Feel free to use them. If you want a grid dropped over each image for reference, I can do that, too. Good luck!