17-09-2001 21:48									#91
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quote: Originally posted by Fresno The bloodthirsty majority here doesn't appear very 'CIVILIZED' to me... I don't see why a RTS OPTION would harm the game.

As it would force compromises in gameplay, to make it playable in both RTS and Turnbased.

	18-09-2001 00:50									#92
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It would force Firaxis to waste valuable time, releasing the game, scouring it for bugs and improving it to make real-time option that would probably be pathetic due to the limited effort that they could but into it at this stage.

	18-09-2001 04:04									#93
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The core genius of Civ is being able to recycle civ1 code as long as possible. Look at all the bugs which were retained in smac and in civ2. going rts would require abondoning too much civ1 code. They would never do it.

	19-09-2001 02:55									#94
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quote: Originally posted by Oligarf I think the turn-based system of Civilization slows down the game. A real-time approach would force players to make smart fast decisions. Multi-player possibilities on the Internet would be more exciting too. Now you have to wait and wait. Time limiting destroys the fun too, at a certain moment I was able only doing half the things I wanted to do when I were in a multiplay game. I think it should be or should become an option in Civ III or Civ IV. Agree?

Someone has been playing too much warcraft and C&C.

There is a oxymoron in your sentences here. Much like Dark Victory.

"Smart" and real-time are a conflicting statement. More like "If you can key map, or program a microphone your reflexes will be faster than opponents and you will win."

Besides. Like they say in the making of the Civ III video.

"It's that addiction, I got to have the one more turn. That's what will keep you up till 3 in the morning. Just one more turn."

And it works. Real-time would not hold my attention past an hour.

	19-09-2001 03:10									#95
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quote: Originally posted by Fresno The bloodthirsty majority here doesn't appear very 'CIVILIZED' to me... I don't see why a RTS OPTION would harm the game.

Civ is turn based. If you made a RT civ, it wouldn't be civ.

	19-09-2001 03:18									#96
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RTS would make the game into a software whore. That is it.

Think baout how unique civ is. Because it is turnbased.

Now think about how it would just be a clone of WC, SC, C&C, AoE, and so on, and so forth.

	19-09-2001 17:28									#97
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quote: Originally posted by Sabre2th Civ is turn based. If you made a RT civ, it wouldn't be civ.

This is far too conservative. Civ1 and 2 WERE turn based. If you made an optional-RT civ, it would be a new (and probably better) civ.

	19-09-2001 19:10									#98
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quote: This is far too conservative. Civ1 and 2 WERE turn based. If you made an optional-RT civ, it would be a new (and probably better) civ.

I really don't know what is wrong with some ppl.Yes civ would be totally different in RTS but how do you think you'll ever be able to play a game of the same size like you're playing now???(AoE-maps and C&C-maps are smaller then even the little maps of civ,and how big are the armies in those games?20 units?30?,what about managing your cities(all 30 or more))

This is really a place where ppl should be conservative.

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	20-09-2001 03:13									#99
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quote: Originally posted by Fresno This is far too conservative. Civ1 and 2 WERE turn based. If you made an optional-RT civ, it would be a new (and probably better) civ.

Thats as stupid as saying that a Real-time (optional) Starcraft game would be good... Sure, you could make a game like that, possibly make it fun, but you would have to mutilate the game-play so much to get it to work, that the resultant game would bear little resemblance to the original.

	20-09-2001 04:20									#100
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For city management- (2 options)
1.) AI Management
2.) Click-Management: IE click once, bring up an option screen, it shows the needed structures, cost, % needed by people, %need for the empire, etc. After evaluating the costs, you can accept or decline.

3.) RTS with Pause. (Technically simultaneous-TBS)

All these options would help city management
#1 and #3 would be the most favorable.
#2 would make Civ RTS an extremely challenging game... I doubt many people outside Korea would buy it

	20-09-2001 08:54									#101
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CIV should NEVER be RT. You do it, and I will throw jelly beans at you. And one seriously hot potato too!