03-10-2001 16:12									#241
	WAAR High Council Release Tired of ads?

To :Zulu and Mali leaders
From: WAAR High Council

Dear sirs/Madams,

The WAAR High Council, being the benevolant people we are, and seeing that the Mali so preciously holds to its control of the Americas, are willing to negotaite on the number of American Colonies to be handed over. If the Mali would rather hold onto what they see as more useful territory in the Americas they can then do a trade off for their African territories. We now this may not please the Zulus so this is directed to both of you to address.

Either ALL American Colonies become WAAR controled and the WAAR hand over all African Provinces (Except for the Nile Valley Egypt and Sudan).

Or, the number of colonies in America is altered and a similar number of desert provinces are handed over to WAAR control. We have the ability to transform poor desert country to high performers. As we have demonstrated in Israel and Saudi Peninsula.

We hear that you wish us to show our good will by the hand over of Mali territory before negotaitions continue, this will not happen. However we are prepared to do a staged handover, you name the province you want, we name the province we want. This will show willingness on both sides.

A proviso on all this is that all provinces and colonies remain intact, we give our word that no improvments have been ransacked by us. In fact we are actively engaged in rebuilding certain improvements.

Finally to the issue of Troops stationed within each province, all troops should be removed except for any defenders necessary to defend the province. We have trained up the survivors in each of the captured Mali territories to the level of Alpine Units, this should please the Mali leadership. We expect the same in the American Colonies. As for any offencive units, they should immediatly leave the garrisoned areas. In Africa all WAAR Ralfitzers will be removed to Israel. Any Mali units in America will need to head to the East coast where a transport (provided as a loan from the WAAR) will collect them and take them back to Africa. upon disbarkation, the transport shall be returned to WAAR Control.

We await any response on all these issues .....

Benjamin Disraeli
Secretary of State
WAAR High Council

	03-10-2001 18:02									#242
	Mogadishu Got spare money?

Shakeem finished reading the WAAR letter he had recieved earlier that morning as he arrived by train into the desert town of Mogadishu. He was accompanied by his Foreign Minister.

"The Israeli proposal seems genuine and fair Kaliid. It seems as if the Mali play it cool, they will get their homeland back. This will be great news for Africa and the west. The Mali think our intentions seem selfish, but their return to power in Africa will make our nation feel safer and Africa as a whole will be much more secure. The motherland above all else is the most important land on the earth and it must be safe, particularly from Israeli influence."

Kaliid nodded.

"Of course General. Africa is our home. It is our peoples home and it is the Mali peoples home. I don't see ourselves as selfish because we are not as concerned with overseas affairs as we are our own continent. The Mali can think what they want, but we only have their best intentions in mind, as we always have."

Shakeem gave a look of agreement.

"So Kaliid, what did the Mali think of your offer to cede the territory of Skopje to their control? We are fully prepared to turn over control on this province as soon as the China deal is finalized. The people there have already been informed and seem to offer no resistance. It's not like they've ever been ruled by any nation. Not since the Norse temporarily took control so many centuries ago. All we get from them is a small dividend of tax money each February and the occasional hello. Their elected mayors are going to run Skopje regardless of what nations flag flies over the state building. They will give the Mali no problems during the transfer of power."

Kaliid had an un-sure look upon his face.

"Truthfully Shakeem, they practically ignored the offer. I don't know if they thought I was bluffing or if they just didn't want the headache of taking over such a distant province. I didn't get a yes or a no, but it surely didn't seem as though they were interested."

Shakeem shrugged.

"Well we don't <i>want</i> to give Skopje up by any means. If the Mali do not care, we will happily retain control of the city. After you have traveled to Sudan to inform the WAAR council that we support their given statement, I would like you to make a trip to Accra and get a definite yes or no."

Kaliid saluted.

"Yes sir."

Kaliid went his seperate way from the General. Shakeem gazed out upon the land surrounding Mogadishu. It was flat and barren, but the plains were alive with activity. Heavy machinery tilled the ground and large pipes for irrigation were being deeply routed into the soil. It was terraformers. Shakeem was in Mogadishu to witness for himself the transformation of desert into grassland.

"Amazing" he thought to himself...........

	03-10-2001 19:07									#243
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It had been four days, not a single word spoken between Vladimir Lenin and his cellmate. Maybe it was better that way, Lenin only had six months here. Who knew how much longer his cellmate would be here. Lenin slowly ate his gruel, courtesy of the Russian State Pen.

His cellmate stood up and stretched looking out of the iron bars, it was a dark and dreary place. No athsteticly pleasing view in the entire building, and outside was cold and barren, the snow screening the forests to near invisibility. The walls were old, very old, made of cement brick that was wasting away. The cell was cool and dank, it likened to a medieval dungeon.

His cellmate was equally decrepid; he was a middle-aged Mongolian. No doubt captured during the Uralsky invasion, however this could be untrue, many Mongols lived amongst Russians for centuries, in fact they considered themselves Russians more than they did Mongolians. Lenin placed his tray on the floor, it was splotched with blood and other stains, and stood up "Comrade." he said simply.

The Mongol turned around, and in a Russian accent replied "Yes?"

"Why have they imprisoned you?" asked Lenin.

"I robbed a transport vehicle, me and my friends. They weren't as lucky as me, well if you think about it, maybe I am the one with the bad luck." he said smiling, his teeth were brown and rotting.

"The police killed them huh?" Lenin asked.

"Yes, they did. They spared me though." said the Mongol, looking down the hallway lined with cells. It was so dark seeing into them was an impossibility.

"The world is nothing but a process, history rather is the process. The world is merely its stage. One day my friend our plight will be an ancient relic. Prisons, police, governments, they will all cease to exist, cease to exploit the people." said Lenin.

"That all seems very wonderful, but look at me. I am in jail, I am an old man, I've never married, never had children, never a family or my own home." he said "My life has been a waste of time, this place isn't so bad for me if you think about it."

"That isn't true, you are guilty of no crime. You are a victim. You've had a job no doubt?" he asked.

"Yes I have, I used to cut lumber. I was layed off though." he replied.

"Why is that?" Lenin asked.

"Machines, my job was no longer usefull, I never worked any other job before that. I lived in Uralsky, that's all there is there; lumber." he said.

"Ah yes, the capitalist strikes again." said Lenin. "You see, there has been constant struggle between those that control the means of production and those that do not, for centuries this has been true. In the days before this civilization that we cling so hard to there was nothing but peace and community. There was no concept of ownership." he began.

"That's impossible, there was always ownership, always." said the Mongol.

"No, in the early days man was communal. It wasn't until the age of Empires that history began, and with it our process. The Idea, the weltgeist." said Lenin.

"You sound like a preacher." replied the Mongol.

"I am no preacher, I am just a follower of a great man. Karl Marx." said Lenin.

"Karl Marx? Never heared of him." said the Mongol.

"That doesn't surprise me, it would do a lot of people well if nobody has heared of him, but it doesn't matter. You can not defy the Idea, the process had begun. The means of production will shift to the Proletariat, the worker, there shall be a dictatorship of the working class." Lenin replied.

"Well, that sounds very interesting, but I have important sleeping and feeling sorry for myself to do, so if you don't mind I'm going to sleep." said the Mongol, walking towards his bed.

"You'll see, one day you'll see..."

	03-10-2001 19:29									#244
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"Commander Keen, I am surprised to find you still here, werent you heading off to oversee the construction of the Project in Iraq?"

"Yes Mathew but I recieved word from President Auldinksy that I was to remain to meet with the Zulu Foriegn minister. I had to spend the alst few days just hanging around here waiting as Minister Kaliid was delayed due to the lack of railroads thorugh Africa, those pesky Zulus keep dismantling them everytime theres a threat of war!! Makes traveliing time much longer"

"May I ask why you had to see him commander? Is it good news for peace?"

"Well I probably shouldnt mention it yet Mathew, but what the hell, you will hear soon enough. It appears the Zulus and WAAR have finally reached a common ground. "

"Great Commander, my boy can be home with his mother soon then !!"

"Not so fast Mathew, the Mali have still not responded, we have posted our message in every Mali town and used all our intelligence network to get our agents to delvier the message , but still no reply."

"I hope the soldiers come home soon, we can use them to finish the engineering jobs."

"Yes, we have much work to complete and little time to do it"

	03-10-2001 19:38									#245
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To : Winston Churchill Prime Minister of EU

From : Benajmin Disraeli Secretary of State WAAR

Re: Peace keeping forces in Africa.

With the recent agreement between Zulu and WAAR we feel it is no longer necessary to maintain your presence in Africa. The main reason for you being there was as a barrier between Zulu and WAAR armys. The positions you were given didnot prevent nor were they meant to, prevent contact between Mali and WAAR armys.

To aid in the rebuildign of the Mali empire, we ask that you cede both African provinces you are garrisoning back to the Mali ASAP. All peace keeping forces in africa should be turned over to Mali leadership to so as they can set up defences in their new provinces.

This action is not only necessary as the war in africa is over, but also because the WAAR High Council would rather deal with Mali or Zulu than with the EU. We feel your handling of the Khurdistan incident has soured WAAR/EU relations and it would be best to not have to meet on a previous battle ground where tensions ar ealready high enough.

As part of this withdrawal from Africa we ask that you also remove all forces from Turkey. This area has always been a DMZ and should be returned to that status. We dont issue any warnings or time schedule on this, you are aware of our ability to forcebily kick out the units, but would rather you take the lead and do it.

Thankyou

	03-10-2001 20:13									#246
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The Zulus disagree on one of Israeli point. Mali cities were defiled in a way, as their names have been changed. The Zulus suggest the Israelis re-instate the previous Mali city names before the cities are returned.

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	03-10-2001 21:52									#247
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I couldnt possibly remember al ltheir old names !!!

I renamed them to show their "Real World" location to enable easier discusiion of geography....


If Mali dont like the names she cna chang ethem back when she gets them, jsut as EU did to captured citys in europe !!!

	03-10-2001 22:37									#248
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If you hadn't almost gone to war over a library I would think you were joking raz

But I'm not so sure

Obviously it doesnt matter all that much, but would be a nice gesture.....you could pull the names from an old save?

	04-10-2001 01:32									#249
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European State Department
110 Metternich Way
Berlin, Germany


TO: The ambassadors of the Zulu Federation and the West Asian and American Republics.
FROM: Vittorio Rossi, Secretary of State of the European Union.

Dear Sirs,

This letter is a response to the latest WAAR release towards the European Union, it has been sent to the Zulus as well because the messages carried within pertain to them as well.

On a point by point basis, WAAR's statements were probably well meant but were very ill worded and planned. The first portion of your statement has already been set into motion, the Europeans have already announced their withdrawl from Africa and the return of the cities to Mali, therefore further discussion in that area are un-neccessary.

As for your second statements, the ones involving Turkey. We feel that your assessment of the entire situation is quite troubling indeed. First you used the selling of books from a library as a potential excuse to reopen hostilities in an area that has seen its share of them. Further you stress the very point you were against just years before when the Mali conflict began. OUR units are on OUR territory, this is fully within OUR rights as a sovreign nation and they shall not be withdrawn. The very same point was made by your armies against the Mali, which acted in the VERY SAME way you are acting right now to us, I hope and pray that Israel does not turn itself into a hypocrite.

To summarize the European Union will withdrawl all forces from Africa and shall return the bases it currently occupies over to the Mali, they will also be given soldiers as well to protect these cities against any local enemies, and we all know who those might be. As far as Turkey goes we will withdraw no units, I am quite sure that no nation within their right minds could denounce this maneuver; this land is our land, these men are our men, we have every right to station them there.

We hope that this does not further sour the relationship between WAAR and the European Union, and would like to make plans for future summits to rebuild it.

Thank you.

Secretary of State,

Vittorio Rossi

	04-10-2001 10:47									#250
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To : winston Churchill Prime Minister of EU
From : Roberto Auldinsky President of the WAAR

My Dear wisnton,

I am writing this personal letter to you as the situation between our countries deteriates. You seem to be forgetting your history, the Turkish Peninsula has always been and should always remain a DMZ between our nations. This was agreed centuries ago, if you wish to break this agreement, ( remembering it is the only agreement of a DMZ the WAAR has we have never had one with the Mali.) we shall take that as an act of aggresion and much worse than the desolation of our Fortress in Khurdistan ( we notice you did not destroy the Fortress yo kno reside in) and the Raping of our city improvments.

We know the world wil lyet again judge us harshly for this, but we dont give a flying sh!t. You have pushed and pushed and you have gone too far, once agian all chances of a western coalition to curtail the expansion of the aussies is gone. We shall regard you from now on as an enemy of WAAR and action will be taken accordingly. May the best man win !!! This is PERSONAL !!!

	04-10-2001 10:59									#251
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quote: Originally posted by drake If you hadn't almost gone to war over a library I would think you were joking raz But I'm not so sure Obviously it doesnt matter all that much, but would be a nice gesture.....you could pull the names from an old save?

Wasnt a war over a library, it was going to be a war over attitude towards us. They expected us to give themn their citys back unscathed after our conquest of Europe ( which we did) yet they claim right to sel our property. They also destryoed a Fortress claiming it only leads to aggression keeping it , and yet the ykeep a fortress one square away for their own troops. The actiosn were aggresive and itsnsmatter whether they detroyed a library or blow up two tall towers, it was aggresive and we repsonded a swe deemed necessary, we halted that process in the aims of peace, but once again he pushes his attitude into our face and expects us to do nothing, well so be it I am Bast@rd and a W@nker, buit is all out war now!!!!!

	04-10-2001 16:29									#252
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The Generals of te WAAR army and the Admirals of the WAAR Navy were all gathered together in the Bunker in Iraq. They had gathered here after the latest tirade by their leader President Auldinksy. He had announced a Jihad agaisnt the EU and the Alarms were now ringing out across the nation.

"What are our expected losses General Williams?" asked Brigadier Scott Johnson.

"Sir we expect we may ls 2-3 provonces in the early months of the war, that will entail the loss of over 50 000 citizens. After that initial charge we shopuld be able to push the EU back and possible take upto 5-6 provinces within the next five years. Casualtiys expected to run into the hundreds of thousands. The only question is then wil the Zulu attack again, we think most likely and also we believe the Mal iwil ltake advantage of the situation and attack in America and Africa. That would lead to millions of lives lost."

"Damn this war!!! Will we survive the combimined attack?"

"No sir we cant, the Zulus outnumber us in all areas. with no outside help we wont saurvive more than 40 years of this war."

"And with help?"

"Sir we beleive if we can get Mongol aid we could not only survive the war but totally crush the EU once and for all"

"So if they dont come to our aid what do we do, the PResidenths committed us to total war."

"Sir if we ar eleft alone, the Mighty WAAR tradition will see us fight to the last man. We wil lcause so much damage to the Western Coalition they will never again be able to challenge any other nation"

"Millions of innocents wil die though General!!"

"That is what war is about sir, the EU pushed the wrong buttons on the President and thats all there is to that"


"he is such a hot head!!"

"Yes but he is the PResident and he represents exactly what the majority of WAAR citizens feel, the actions of the EU were meant to upset us. They wante dto see us respond in this way"

"Yes they did, they wanted to see how weak mentally we are, well now they know and soon I guess they wil lfeel how far a pshycopath wil lgo when taunted one too many times!"

	04-10-2001 17:02									#253
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"They are making a mountain out of a molehill" says Foreign Minister Kaliid.

"It seems as though they are and have always been Paul Keating's willing b1tch. Not suprising." says Captain Fonhto of The USS Mozambique.

"The Israelis have war in their blood. Always have. Like a rabid dog, they never stop and never adhere to logic and common decency." said Gooma Gallieem of Cameroon.

"They are hell bent on either conquering the world or suicide. It's one extreme or the other. People like this just cannot be reasoned with." said Sargeant Jiiioa of the 42nd Analava platoon.

"Here we go again " says General Shakeem.

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	05-10-2001 02:35									#254
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quote: Originally posted by drake "They are making a mountain out of a molehill" says Foreign Minister Kaliid.

Just to remind all....

The first day I joined this game, the EU (Adriatica back then) thretened me with attacks, for entering this very same DMZ a DMZ that I didnt know existed, but after being informed about it I withdrew the units.

The Zulus three sessions ago demanded , under threat of violence,a WAAR unit be removed from a Fortress that overlapped their city radius and the WAAR once agian for peace sake removed it.

quote: "It seems as though they are and have always been Paul Keating's willing b1tch. Not suprising." says Captain Fonhto of The USS Mozambique.

if anyone could give me one good reason to support a coalition of people that obviosuly hate my nation and take great delight in antogonising us then i would join it, but not once, has any help been offered from the Western Alliance, no techs no gold, nothing, just verbal tirades and destruction of WAAR property, please tell me how this means that for no reason I will be aiding the Aussies. My allegiance at present is with the Nongols and no one else, unless anyone else offers me support.

quote: "The Israelis have war in their blood. Always have. Like a rabid dog, they never stop and never adhere to logic and common decency." said Gooma Gallieem of Cameroon.

on the contrary, all my wars have been instigated by others and I always follow logic, not the rhetoric as posted here. I ask again how would Zulus respond to WAAR howitzers parked in a recognised DMZ, (For real life example how would USA react to North Korean Artillery advancing into Korean DMZ ?)

quote: "They are hell bent on either conquering the world or suicide. It's one extreme or the other. People like this just cannot be reasoned with." said Sargeant Jiiioa of the 42nd Analava platoon.

for a nation so claled "Hell bent on conquering" we havhanded back far more land than we have ever taken. If world conquest or suicde was our goal, we would never have returned the Europena conquests.

quote: "Here we go again " says General Shakeem.

You're right here we go again, once again at a time when we need western Coalition to form the EU continues to do things that he knows will incite war, tell me who is the illogical one, or perhaps it is the EU that is working with the Aussies to keep tensions high. A simple Apology for the previous actions of Firstly invading Khurdistan then deetroying city improvemnts , then destroying a Fortress and finally if they removed the units from DMZ would end the crisis altogether. You are so quick to put pressure on me to cave in but I see no pressure applied by you to the EU to go for peace, so you too are acting illogically given your ultimate aim was to get a western coalition to fight the Australians.....

	05-10-2001 03:09									#255
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To the Leaders of all Nations
From Roberto Auldinsky President of the Western Asian and American Republic.

Re: Current Mid East Crisis

As a peace loving nation we have decided to take our issues to the world to be judged. Prior to any military action being taken by the WAAR we are releasing this letter to ascertain the worlds opinions on this matter.

The FACTS
1. There is and has been much tension in Mid east for centuries, all sides taking every action very seriously.
2. The EU under AI control invaded Khurdistan and conquered it, this broke the peace agreement between EU and WAAR
3. Upon normal leadership beign reinstated, the EU agreed to return Khurdistan.
4. Prior to returning it they sold the remaining city impovement(s) as they openly admit to seling a library but fail to mention the other improvment they destryoed too. For evidnece please refer picture below, showing that prior to capture the city was size 7, with 6 improvements. After capture it was size 5 and unkwonn improvemnts due to EU ownership,they claim it only had a library left. But all my informatio points to only one improvmetn lost each atack and another one for city conquer and another for city handover to me so that makes 4 improvemtns lost not 6.!!!!
5. After leaving the City they stop to pilalge a fortress next to the city.
6. They then place their units including a Howitzer in a fortress within the city radius of Khurdistan. This area was an agreed DMZ as set up centuries ago.

Based on the above what would be the correct response.

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	05-10-2001 03:25									#256
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here are the troops stationed in my province

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	05-10-2001 03:33									#257
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News has arrived that President Auldinsky has bowed to common sense and has agreed to the terms of the Non Nuke Pact. (NNP) He has signed a declaration forbidding any testing of Weopons of such mass destruction in the lands of WAAR territory. He hopes the rest of the wor will aslo follow suit.

This decalration came after the shock visit of Australain dignatarys to WAAR after centuries of isolation. One Australain quizzed about this change said that the issue of NNP was too big to allow political differnces to get in the way , he went on to say that this did not mean any thawing in the Australains attitude towards the WAAR, but it coud see the beginning of that process.

	05-10-2001 03:40									#258
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	05-10-2001 03:45									#259
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The Aussies need to know who has agreed to sign the Nuclear Treaty?

So far we believe it's:
UAS
Chinese
Aussies
Zulus (provided we sign the Non SS research program, which we have)

Not sure about WAAR?

EU? I don't think so....

Mali.... it could only strengthen their position....

All signatories will soon receive the tech of Nuclear Fission for free as a sign of good faith and a belief that no one will build the Manhatten Terror!

	05-10-2001 04:06									#260
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WAAR troops in Khurdistan were put on full alert last night as alarms rang out across the province. Al ltroops on leave were recalled and the bunkers were overcrowed with men and women,

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also much troop movemnet was detected in africa as temproary airbases were setup and new army HQ was establsihed

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	05-10-2001 04:20									#261
	Saul seeks world approval to send Aussie peacekeepers to Bosporus area. Full PM-box? Change here!

We are prepared to station peace keepers between Bosporus and Khurdistan if it pleases the world.

We offer this despite the fact we are in Democracy and troop movements abroad will not be popular at home.

	05-10-2001 04:23									#262
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"Sir this letter jsut arrived in the diplomatic pouch " the aide handed over the sealed envelop to Benjamin Disraeli Secretary of State.

"thankyou son"

He grabbed his gold plated letter opener and sliced through the seal representing the old Mali government.

He slowly read the letter and then pressed the buzzer linking his office to the Presidnets.

"Mr PReisdent, the Mali have responded."

"I'll be right there Ben"

A short while later the President finished reading the letter himself.

"Wow, they asking a lot of trust from us Ben, do we agree?"

"Not sure Mr President, I think we need a slight modification of it to get full agreeement."

"Me too, but at least this is positve, they msut have got a new government formed, giving Timbuktu bakc would be good, but we need our troops out first."

"I agree Mr President, I will send them a rapid repsonse, I wil lget in contact with Mali now."

Mali peace offering

quote: First of all you have to give over Timbuktu if I have to replace units that are there, I will do so, but as a sign of good faith and for the reasons I have already explained to you that a person's capitol has a special significance to ME (whether I got a palace there or not right now) I'll give you Canadienne Umbassa Underal the nyou hand over Burkina Faso Liberia Guinea Niger and Libya next I turn over remaining Americans, which are: New Gao New Timbuktu Nashville that's the total sum extent of every city I got in America then you return remaining African cities of: Gambia West Sahara Morocco and Tunisa I'd like to have you give me a howie and two engineers in Africa for those units in America but I ain't gonna jump and down over it cause I really don't got all that much military there in the first place (as you know since you whacked them all!) and there's really not that much to defend against in America except where you already established) unless you want me to give you back something that was left attached to a city, in which case I'd be happy to trade as long as I got at least 1 military unit in each city and you honor the peace, as I will seems to me that's a much more effective way to swap military than transporting them across the Atlantic Oh, and we at Peace after that.

	05-10-2001 04:34									#263
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It is with a heavy heart that we have received word of hostilities once again. Centuries of warfare had seemingly ended as the Mali and West Asian and American Republic finally seemed nearing an acceptable peace agreement. Unfortunatly peace seems to be jepordized.

Acts of EU treachery have now been made clear to the world. The Union of Asian States condemns the dishonest actions of the EU and announces to the world that our proud nation is a victim of this treachory as well. There were many years of turmoil in both EU and UAS, foolish leaders made foolish decisions and both nations attacked peaceful neighbors unprovoked.

After these misdeeds by the EU and the UAS more civilized leaders came to power. It was agreed by all parties that the conquering of EU and WAAR territory was an unfortunate mistake which was to be corrected as easily and quickly as possible. In addition to the correction of unfortunate misdeeds by errant rulers a long unfufiled peace agreement between the EU and UAS was to finally be secured.

President Ozzy Khan spoke with the EU leader to discuss terms of the territory hand over. It was agreed that troops would be moved out of the territories and then the terrotories would be handed over. This was carried out and UAS handed over three fully intact cities to the EU. In response the EU handed over 2 shells of cities to the UAS admitting later that the cities had been pilliaged by EU troops before the turn over.

This is HIGHLY trecherous and dishonest. Wanton pilliaging of property legally owned by another is not how civilized nations conduct themselves. This seems to be a secure pattern of how EU deals with foreign nations destroying buildings in Israel and dismantling WAAR fortresses. UAS does not see this as an act of war but UAS recognizes that the EU is a slimy nation not to be trusted and has called off any plans for a Western Alliance with the EU.

It has also been made clear that the EU has broken a treaty between WAAR and the EU that has stood for ages. In light of the highly aggressive history this region has a Demilitarized Zone is highly needed and a broach of the DMZ by one side is a valid pretense for a limited war to secure peace in the DMZ.

The Union of Asian States propose the following deal:

WAAR troops be used to clear out the DMZ of all troops which is called for by standard DMZ treaties. WAAR troops will then withdraw and leave the DMZ as well so foreign Australlian or UAS troops can be placed as peacekeepers between this two troubled nations.

The UAS sees no need or cause for this slimy act by the EU to create a large deadly war and are confident that the peaceful rulers of WAAR can overlook this trespass and not pursue this matter past the correction of EU's error.

	05-10-2001 05:04									#264
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Mali Provisional Government

It will please be pardoned if we seem seperate from the world but we are in a transitional phase and the power structure here has not been ratified.
However, we, the Provisio who have taken the mantle of leadership upon ourselves, respond to several issues from the current world state.

1. The Mali do not intend to build Manhattan Project, nor is the research of weapons of this kind within our scope or our interests. Thus we add our voice to those who call for the nuclear ban

2. Since WAAR throws it's conflict upon the world government, we give our opinion, though it must be realized the lack of weight this carries. With regards the the loss of civic improvements we feel we cannot make a judgement. War is expensive. It would be a positive and encouraging sign that the EU wishes to avoid war if they would just make some token monetary gesture to make up for some hotheads looting a library; however, we can also see that those in the WAAR authority appear to blown this out of proportion, so..we say only that it is hard for someone to talk to you when you are shouting at them.
However, on the other issue of the troops stationed as they are, and with only hearsay to go on regarding a similar fortification which was destroyed, our reaction would probably be (as it HAS been) the same as it was when WAAR did the exact same thing to us not so very long ago....i.e., it would be seen as an aggressive act of intimidation to have those units parked where they are. The fact that this particular space is in an overlap and actually rests within the city boundaries of both cities is noted, and technically they have every right to be there, but to do so sends a message which the EU claims it does not want to send so why leave them? Maybe it would be different if they were more defensive units. and not so patently offensive units. Maybe not. Maybe WAAR should utilize the same logic and rationalizations they gave to us when they acted the same way.
But to use an analogy which has been heard from us before -- if you keep poking a man in the chest, how can you be surprised if he takes a swing at you? Even if they are within their own boundaries, they are also with the boundaries of WAAR, and have been asked to withdraw, so it would look like a poke in the chest to us
However, that is just an opinion.

	05-10-2001 08:29									#265
	Peace PEace PEace Increase the size of your Attachments

Three peace treaties signed in one session

The Treaty of En Nahud saw the Zulu and WAAR agree t osuspend all miltary action agsinst each other.

The Treaty of Accra saw the Mali and WAAR finalise their agreemnt with all of America now WAAR and Africa returned to the Mali.

The Treaty of Bosporus saw the EU under Arty Intelli agree to suspend all miltiary action and asked for peace between EU and WAAR.

To keep the peace the Australians agreed to setup Peace keepers in the DMZ between Bosporus and Khurdistan, and the Mongols agreed to patrol north of Georgia.

	05-10-2001 09:05									#266
	Support Apolyton, buy Galactic Civilizations

Turns out I DID actually grab a save mid turn after all.
So here it is for everyone that needs it....it's right in the middle of my turn, almost right before I got knocked.:

EDIT:

Umm ok, now I'm reviewing this save and a few things don't seem correct after all. A few of the cities that had completed improvements are showing that they didn't and I'd therefore lose a round of shields basically in most cities.....which of course is un-acceptable....

So Raz, please post your save, as the one I have is FUNKY

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	05-10-2001 09:35									#267
	Help yourself to an AD-FREE life

hmm no shield production... !!!

DAMN Drake I just deleted it too !!!!


Just kididng !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Attachment: zulu1605net.zip
This has been downloaded 5 time(s).

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	05-10-2001 10:22									#268
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In a landslide result yesterday, President Roberto Auldinsky won another term in office, under WAAR constitution this gives him another 20 years in office.

Some vital statistics that made for the landnslide vote

Approval rating of 75%
Population 13.94 million
GNP $2314 Mill
Mfg Goods 554 tonnes
Land area 641 000 Acres
Literacy 80%
Disease 8%


Some great figures that the current adminsitration can be proud of.

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	05-10-2001 16:00									#269
	A brilliant session Suffering from ads?

Well that was by far the most enjoyable session i have played in Months. We got three a few turns each even though lag seemed very bad.

Was good to see the Mali return to Africa where they have kept saying they belong. I notice the Zulus keep saying they belong there too, so perhaps they need to vacate South america !! (Just kidding guys)

The Australians were welocmed with open arms as peacekeepers in Turkey, a new role for Aussies to put their army at risk , good to see they have come out of their shell finally.

Was very surprised that the AI controlled EU didnt make any aggresive demands nor attacks. Unlike their excursion into Turkey two sessions ago. Although down in Africa the EU troops are pillaging all road/Rail lines. I beleive the Mali have tried escorting them away but they appear to hav efortified themselves into position. If requested by the Zulu or Mali, the WAAR will volunteer to remove those rebels!!

Speaking of Africa most citizens in the area were delighted to see 20 divisions of Ralfitzers leaving the African colonies and returning home to Western Asia.

The WAAR discovery of Nuclear Fission caught the Asusies by surprise but the WAAR have traded it well to recover some lost ground tech wise. Soon the WAAR army will be revitalised with Missile Capability. Hopefully once so armed peace may be maintained.

	05-10-2001 17:07									#270
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It was a nice smooth session. Aussies and Chinese kinda slow and at this rate we will NOT finish before Christmas as I predicted, that is unless someone does something with the quickness. Not an issue to me, but I know Pro is going away in December. Anyway, I know you guys are probably going as fast as possible and all, so I should probably stop b1tching about it

I was genuinely impressed by the Israeli behaviour in Africa. Very professionally handled. Also, thanks to Aussies for their entry into Turkey to maintain peace.

The Greenland province of Skopje was turned over to the Mali empire to accomodate many of the homeless from Africa this session as promised for completion of the China deal. The Mali have close neighbors in Iceland, so we predict the transition will be painless and quick (besides the Africans adjustment to cold!).

Well who knows where the Capo was this time. Absent again!