27-08-2001 09:56									#1
	Does FIRAXIS have any human non-gameindustry betatesters? Support Apolyton

OK, now I see some contradiction here...

So, could someone from FIRAXIS, please give an clarification

As MarkG wrote in the other thread:

quote: The programming team is now dedicated to fixing bugs detected by the beta testers ...

I combine with the Jeff interview:

quote: Apolyton: Are there any plans for a public beta test? What determined your decision? Jeff: ... A closed public beta wasn't an option since don't they involve a large enough 'sample' for compatibility testing and requires immense manpower to manage.

Question: Are there any human civ-fantic players doing beta-testing, like in makin of SMAC?

	27-08-2001 10:22									#2
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quote: Originally posted by Jeje2 Question: Are there any human civ-fantic players doing beta-testing, like in makin of SMAC?

yes, Sid Meier, Jeff Briggs, Jeff Morris, etc....

a bit more seriously, i think that it's very possible that among the beta-testers will be people who have play civ games in the past....

	27-08-2001 11:37									#3
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Doubt it. All the compatibility testing is done centrally at Infogrames this time around...

	05-09-2001 08:14									#4
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The biggest thing was that they had human alpha testers. Most bugs and balancing is done then as far as I have been told.

Beta is just to check for some bugs and compatability (which is why public betas are good, wide variety of compatibility issues). Not much is changed.

	05-09-2001 08:47									#5
	Re: Does FIRAXIS have any human non-gameindustry betatesters? Lose 30 kilos (of popups)

quote: Originally posted by Jeje2 Question: Are there any human civ-fantic players doing beta-testing, like in makin of SMAC?

You mean instead of the alien and monkey testers they have right now?

	05-09-2001 09:40									#6
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quote: Originally posted by Pembleton You mean instead of the alien and monkey testers they have right now?

Actually, they're Alien/Monkey hybrids. The truth is out there, you know...


Dan

	05-09-2001 17:34									#7
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quote: Originally posted by Dan Magaha FIRAXIS Actually, they're Alien/Monkey hybrids. The truth is out there, you know...

Dan, THX for ... nothing

Ouyt of all possible replys this one?

Does this mean that you have none or that you have some, but you have desided to keep quiet this time abvout them?

If second case, please just say you have them. I so hope you have some outsiders to help in balansing etc. the game.

But, OK this is also better than nothing. At least you are reading/following happenings.

	05-09-2001 19:17									#8
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quote: Originally posted by Dan Magaha FIRAXIS Actually, they're Alien/Monkey hybrids. The truth is out there, you know...

	05-09-2001 20:25									#9
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I was a beta tester for Microprose once. If this is at all anything similar I can tell you...

1) They pay you about $12/hour.
2) You "work" around 25 hours/week.
3) Game balance and bug checking are BOTH important.
4) It's usually a summer job or a short-term job for people.
5) Everyone who is does it is a total geek and really into gaming.