27-08-2001 17:25									#1
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I don't know why the Flashman's thread keep being closed.

I'm sure there were good reasons, I haven't read the closed thread anyway, but I trust the administrators of this site.

However

The last one, http://apolyton.net/forums/showthre...;threadid=25184 that as been closed too, was neither dangerous nor violent nor pornographic.

Why the hell was it closed ?
There was no reason to close that one. Was it a joke from MarkG ?

I dislike censorship anyway. I find people which put stars not to show a prohibed word are ridiculous. Mother ****er. So furthermore, when it comes to people compelled to silence because of the censor's goodwill, I become angry.

	27-08-2001 17:37									#2
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I'd guess the thread was closed because it was a running joke. Personally I think MarkG's closing note just added the punchline. Turning it into a crusade would be a bit sad.

As for the autocensor? Not everyone wishes to read such words. You can either be a gentleman and live with it, or stick to obscenities the autocensor doesn't recognise.

I prefer the latter, obviously.

	27-08-2001 17:38									#3
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It was closed because there was no more need for discussion.
As MarkG pointed out, it was obvious why he was closing the thread.

Many of his threads which aren't rude or crude are just pure spam, which also aren't allowed under the current rules.

And feel free to get angry... it is your opinion, and I can understand where you are coming from.

However, this isn't a democracy... This is a private site. The owners make the rules. If you wish to be a member here, you are asked to follow them. It's that simple.

	27-08-2001 18:15									#4
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I find it quite ironic that my prediction that he wouldn't survive on Apolyton has errily come true. And yes, this is spam in disguise. Except you can't see it.

	27-08-2001 21:22									#5
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MarkG is changing thread titles without any reasonable justification: http://apolyton.net/forums/showthre...;threadid=25336

Is it our fault his homeland is plagued with such horrible civil strife?

Macedonia rebels begin weapons surrender

	28-08-2001 00:04									#6
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you could always go to ACOL, they believe in freedom

	28-08-2001 02:00									#7
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Totally not censorship. You can still read what was said in that thread. All Mark did was stop the spamming that was going on at the time to stop the +1 post count posts.

Of course anyone could start another thread on the subject if there was more to say on the topic other than speaking in third person. So you have and it probably wont be stopped because the site does allow most public discourse but spam threads have never been allowed and I hope will continue to be stopped.

	28-08-2001 03:10									#8
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quote: Originally posted by ColdWizard you could always go to ACOL, they believe in freedom

Except for one prominent scapegoat eliminated for conflict of personality.:banned:

	28-08-2001 13:44									#9
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Speaking of which, my buddy Mark just cleared all of my replies to a post of his thread regarding his ads.

Edit: Nevermind, he simply moved them to a new thread with an offensive title. It's ironic, because he just trolled.

	28-08-2001 19:38									#10
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This makes me think that a centain Gallic poster may indeed be the DL that many suspect.

Ninnyman/Pedro/Flashman knows his stuff is against the rules before he posts it, it's just a stupid game he likes to play, like talking in the third person.

quote: you could always go to ACOL, they believe in freedom

Haven't been following trends the last few months?

	28-08-2001 17:07									#11
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quote: Originally posted by M. le Comte Mother ****er.

I can't believe it !
I have been censored because I have written Mother F-u-c-k-e-r, enculeur de mère in French !
I believed only the American where puritan at this level. Are the Greeks afraid of that kind of language ?

I mean, I understand that Apolyton's owners censor spam threads or people who keep writting words as... see below.

But that kind of words are a part of the vocabulary. When you don't use them too often, they can show particularly strong feelings about a topic, express violence and so on ! But that just stays simple WORDS !

Furthermore, the way you use censorship is ridiculous. Because while putting little stars, you hide the word, but you can't wipe out the ideas included in that word.

That reminds me the Jerry I-don't-know-what show in America, of which I have whatched excerpts on TV. This Jerry machin-chose showed us the perversity of media, making money with people's problems, showing human as a monkey. But that was okay for the American puritan public, because noone could hear the insults (bip). Everyone could understand however.

You know how that kind of things are called in France ? HYPOCRISY

	28-08-2001 18:37									#12
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Richard Pryor* was at breakfast with his wife and baby son, and the cild spoke for the first time "mother". Pryor said to his wife, listen honey, junior knows half a word!

*famous foul mouthed commedian

	28-08-2001 18:55									#13
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quote: Originally posted by M. le Comte Because while putting little stars, you hide the word, but you can't wipe out the ideas included in that word

exactly. those who dont want to see the words dont read them. that doesnt mean that the message is not "given". everyone happy

	28-08-2001 20:20									#14
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The autocensor is completely pointless. It's not like the intention or meaning of a word that is asterisked-out is not clear. So, basically, someone who gets offended by a word is going to get equally offended if it is censored (either that or they are a hypocrite)... but the autocensor has the added bonus of being patronising (yeah right, if I can only see asterisks I won't know what it means my arse!). So, rather than offending people, the autocensor ought to be offend and patronise people.

A word is just a collection of letters. It is the meaning of the word that may/may not be offensive. Therefore, anyone who is fine with the asterisks but not with the word itself is either incredibly stupid or a ****ing hypocrite.

	28-08-2001 20:20									#15
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quote: Originally posted by M. le Comte But that kind of words are a part of the vocabulary. When you don't use them too often, they can show particularly strong feelings about a topic, express violence and so on ! But that just stays simple WORDS !

Actually I think it shows immaturity that you can't come up with a more appropriate way of showing your irritation or your dander.

	28-08-2001 20:32									#16
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it's funny how those who do not like asterisks tend to be more easy on insulting other people....

	28-08-2001 21:21									#17
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Moi? Insulting?

	28-08-2001 23:24									#18
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MLC, if you think them censoring the 'f' word is bad, you obviously haven't discovered that they censor the word d-i-c-k. (****).

However, you can say '****er', 'bugger', 'hell', 'bloody', '****', '***' and 'arse' as much as you like.

Not that I would

	29-08-2001 00:43									#19
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I don’t bother too much with the censorship of certain words, but I do find it rather annoying that I can’t write Matsu****a without being censored...
(FYI Matsush!ta is the company behind Panasonic, Technic and National)

	29-08-2001 01:22									#20
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quote: Originally posted by Chris 62 Haven't been following trends the last few months?

actually i haven't, but i did go and lurk a little a coupla weeks ago so i know the gist of what happened. i was merely being sarcastic

	29-08-2001 03:02									#21
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well I shall remark about vulgarity. I like bad words. But in the context of this forum, they have no place. I save them for spamming forums like audiogalaxy . Occasionally I do use profanity. And it is a pain to go out of my way to make the word I want to use clear. but it is worth it. since **** and **** have the same # of letters, I usually just say something like f*ck. And the C word I won't even mention. I don't use that word out of respect for women who hate that word. I only say that word to women who deserve it. BTW I'm talking about the other C word not the one that is part of the word c0ckfight.

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	29-08-2001 09:43									#22
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quote: Originally posted by Colon I don’t bother too much with the censorship of certain words, but I do find it rather annoying that I can’t write Matsu****a without being censored...

How such a vulgarity can be admitted on this forum ?

	29-08-2001 09:46									#23
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quote: Originally posted by Colon I do find it rather annoying that I can’t write Matsu****a without being censored

this feature of the script is like those "smart bombs"....

	29-08-2001 11:41									#24
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Just a question that has nothing to do with the former posts.

To MarkG

Do you come from Macedonia or from Greece ?

	29-08-2001 11:58									#25
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Surety that he is a DL = Surety that he is a DL * 800

	29-08-2001 12:12									#26
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quote: Originally posted by M. le Comte Do you come from Macedonia or from Greece ?

should i use the kinds of words you would like to see without asterisks, or not? that is the question......

	29-08-2001 12:51									#27
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So you're from the Greek speaking part of Macedonia...

Sorry if I've offensed you.

Just an other off-topic question.

What do you think about what's going on there ?
- Are the Albanian speaking macedonian right to contest central government ?
- Is there the same feelings among the Greek population ?
- What do you think about the fact that NATO intervenes ?

In fact, in France, I just kwnow what newspaper and media say, and I know that you can't always trust them. Not because they lie, but because they just are strangers in a situation they can't perfectly understand. So, and don't feel offensed, could you please answer me about that ?

	29-08-2001 12:54									#28
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see the thread about FYROM by paiktis in the OT

	29-08-2001 13:20									#29
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Thanks Censor.

	29-08-2001 13:51									#30
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"this feature of the script is like those "smart bombs"...."

So I'm just collateral damage then?